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In the extension 1 text book there was this problem...

Solve: X² > A²

The only solution I can see from that is

|X| > |A|

But the text book answer is

X < -A, X > A

Is the text book wrong or am I missing something?
 

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im really sorry. i thought yr 11 would b easy maths 2 explain.
but u do extension :( im sorry. im a general girl.
 

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X2 > A2

+X > +A

if X and A are both positive then X > A
if X is negative and A is positive then -X > A and so X < -A

i'm not really sure. i'm confused now '-_-
 

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no because -x times -x is still x2
the problem is i don't know exactly how x can be less than -a, when -a is negative but x is positive.... it's confusing me a lot :mad:
i'm ashamed... :( yr12 3-unit person can't do yr11 question.
 

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Dreamerish*~ said:
no because -x times -x is still x2
the problem is i don't know exactly how x can be less than -a, when -a is negative but x is positive.... it's confusing me a lot :mad:
i'm ashamed... :( yr12 3-unit person can't do yr11 question.
X is a variable. Meaning it can be positive or negative. "-A" doesn't strictly imply that that is less than 0. So it works. :)

Like, ok. Say a is 3. For X to be less than -a, then x must be less than -3, say -5.

(-5)^2 = 25
3^2 = 9

so the statement holds.
 

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The easiest way to do it is:
X^2-A^2>0
Try to think of this as a parabola.
The parabola cuts the x axis at A and -A and is concave up
Therefore, X>A or X<-A
 

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Guys, don't make this harder than it needs to be. Common sense is just about all you need in your arsenal to get this done.

Think of an equality first:

x^2 = 4
x = 2, -2

Obviously, making x larger than 2 will make the answer larger than 4. Remembering that any number squared is positive, making x LESS than -2 will make the answer LARGER than 4.

This summarises to |x| > 2, so you were close, Brodie.

All your question is is my example in general terms.

Therefore, applying this logic, x > a, x < -a, OR, |x| > a
 

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Will Hunting said:
Guys, don't make this harder than it needs to be. Common sense is just about all you need in your arsenal to get this done.

Think of an equality first:

x^2 = 4
x = 2, -2

Obviously, making x larger than 2 will make the answer larger than 4. Remembering that any number squared is positive, making x LESS than -2 will make the answer LARGER than 4.

This summarises to |x| > 2, so you were close, Brodie.

All your question is is my example in general terms.

Therefore, applying this logic, x > a, x < -a, OR, |x| > a
Does this work though? Isn't a a variable too?
e.g., x = -1/2, a = -1. Your statement there is true, but subbing the same values for the original question is not.
 

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Yeah, man, but it's a dependent variable that "responds" to changes in x. The pronumeral, x, is usually always taken as the independent variable in mathematics (Like a function of x, where y, the ordinate, responds to changes in x, the abscissa). In other words, the question is to be solved with respect to, of for, x.
 
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X^2 > A^2

X^2 - A^2 > 0

(X-A)(X+A) > 0

by drawing simple concave up parabola, and letting the intercepts be -A (LHS of origin) & +A (RHS of origin), it can be clearly seen that X < - A and X > A if the solution is (X-A)(X+A) > 0

hope it helps, my son
 

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dawma88 said:
X^2 > A^2

X^2 - A^2 > 0

(X-A)(X+A) > 0

by drawing simple concave up parabola, and letting the intercepts be -A (LHS of origin) & +A (RHS of origin), it can be clearly seen that X < - A and X > A if the solution is (X-A)(X+A) > 0

hope it helps, my son
Expanding on this, if you've got the parabola crossing the xaxis at -A and A, it will cross the yaxis (x=0) at:
(0-A)(0+A)
=-A * A
=-(A^2)

So therefore, it will cross the yaxis =<0, as A^2 has to be positive, and there's the negative out front, and therefore the parabola has it's head down.
 

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nah mate its concave up
think abt it some more: as x goes to +/- infinity, y goes to?
 

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shafqat said:
nah mate its concave up
think abt it some more: as x goes to +/- infinity, y goes to?
yeah man .....
 

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