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hiphophorray123 said:
wtf....lol no man i know for a fact i have the retail copy of games album, the advanced has been out for ages, the retail actually leaked today...

az? no man i was talking about how some girl on the first page mentioned the R&B group 'az yet'.....AZ and Nas were great on 'serious'....aziatic was a great album too AZ is very underrated.

the documentary has good beats but yeh game sucks, 'dreams' 'hate it or love it' and 'put you on the game' have great beats, also the one produced by havoc.

btw, you can't have a top 10 without mentioning 'the infamous' by mobb deep...sorry it just ain't on.

i didnt even name 10 albums man lol.. i mentioned 5 that i like.. cant name 10 because my list always changes anyway.. im always finding new things so i cant have a definite answer.

speaking of mobb deep wasnt prodigy a ballerina
 
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illmatic said:
i didnt even name 10 albums man lol.. i mentioned 5 that i like.. cant name 10 because my list always changes anyway.. im always finding new things so i cant have a definite answer.

speaking of mobb deep wasnt prodigy a ballerina

ballerina??? are you poking fun at him having sickle cell?? that's cold.
 

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hiphophorray123 said:
it's been done before, and done better (run DMC and aerosmith) (snoop dogg and rage against the machine etc)

i know it's been done before.. but since jay-z and nas have history i just thought id mention that jigga out did nas

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ballerina??? are you poking fun at him having sickle cell?? that's cold.
no. it was prodigy or havoc. they had beef with jay-z. they took shots at each other and apparently jigga found a photo of prodigy or havoc in a ballerina uniform, and he put it up on a screen at summer jam.... so yeh..


lets talk about hip hop beefs

who won?
Nas or Jay-Z
Pac or Biggie
Ja or 50
Game or Budden
LL or Canibus

name some more
 
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illmatic said:
i know it's been done before.. but since jay-z and nas have history i just thought id mention that jigga out did nas



who won?
Nas or Jay-Z
Pac or Biggie
Ja or 50
Game or Budden
LL or Canibus

name some more

yeah i've got nothing better to do

ok

well

nas VS jay-z was hard to call because even though 'ether' seems to be the most popular diss i enjoyed 'takeover' more...ether was more vicious and hard-hitting though so i'd have to say battle-wise nas won....but blueprint > stillmatic

Pac VS biggie i don't really care about because i'm sick of hearing about it but pac won even though biggies the better MC

JA VS 50, both are stupid gay popstar bitches but 50 won. DMX came at ja worse though with 'they want war (ruled out)'

Game VS budden............BUDDEN...'game over' 'big shot' and 'heartbeatology' were all great disses.

LL Vs canibus (and wyclef jean)....lol well '2nd round K.O was OK' but 'ripper strike back' (thats in my stereo at the moment too) was a great diss and funny...LL for sure

more:

T.I VS Lil' Flip....T.I ('99 problems but lil flip aint one' was what got me into T.I...best recent diss besides buddens ones)...easy to scare...pussy ass niggaz...and his verse on grande finale all killed flip as well.....flips garbage, worst rapper out now.

DMX VS JA Rule....short beef coz ja was too scared to reply...he only took a shot at X with 3 lines...dmx won

Eminem VS Benzino....beef worth mentioning because eminem had some funny disses to benzino...both are gay as hell...but eminem won of course

eminem VS canibus...pretty one sided...eminem won

ice cube VS NWA....my favourite 'beef'.....'no vaseline' is my favourite diss track...he murked them...ice cube won for sure

Dr Dre VS Eazy E......Eazy E

Common VS ICe Cube....Common

Westside Connection VS Cypress Hill.....WC

Mobb Deep VS 2Pac.....2pac unfortunately...mobb deep > 2pac though

mobb deep VS keith murray ......mobb deep

small 'beef' but ill still mention it.....T.I VS Ludacris......ludacris...only because on 'stomp' ludacris had the advantage, as he had already heard t.i's subliminal diss in the verse before he recorded his verse....thats why T.I didn't clear the vocals...so thats why games on the record instead (on young bucks retail version of 'stomp)....still they 'squashed their beef' because apparantly it was all a misunderstanding and their actually in talks to do some songs together yay.

thats all i can think of for now
 
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BreaKing said:
what are some good dissin' songs?

Ice Cube - No Vaseline
T.I - 99 problems but lil flip aint one
T.I - jackin for beats 2004
Westside Connection - King Of The Hill
Eazy-E - Real Muthafukin G's
Eminem - Can-I-Bitch
LL Cool J - The Ripper Strikes Back
NAs - Ether
Nas - Superugly
Jay-Z - Takeover
DMX - The Want War
Mobb Deep - Hang Yaself
Mobb Deep - Drop A Gem On Em
Joe Budden - Game Over
Joe Budden - Big Shot
Joe Budden - Heartbeatology
 

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hiphophorray123 said:
takeover was a better song, ether had sharper jabs

Nope. The only remotely decent "diss" was;

"I roc-hoes, yall +roc-fellas+"

The rest was irrelevant shit, opinions etc.. It was overrated.
 
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gunshots]

[Nas talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talkin 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fuckin ring

[Chorus]

I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly actin, envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Sean Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss



first verse was shit but the second and third were hard
 
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T.I is a good story teller, some people judge him on his singles saying his just another 'bling rapper' but his more creative than any other mainsteam rapper out right now, his track 'what happened' off his classic debut 'im serious' shows off his good skills as a storyteller....he dies, goes to heaven, god tells him the devil was the cause of his death, goes down to hell with biggie, pac and his deceased friend 'bankhead' and confront satan, shoots up hell, tears hell up, and wakes up..

T.I.]
Dez niggas robbing me
Pray to God is nothing but a robbery
I gave them all I had
So they pulled they lick off flawlessly
They yelling fussing cussing
But all I hear is heaven calling
Me next thing I know they busting
They lef me seven and they all in me
on fallen knees help me please death is all I see
If I die memory of a ballin G is all I'll be
Never thought I'll be lying in a poodle of blood trying to breath
I don't want to die but something is telling me
It's time to leave say my apologizes
Maybe find a piece of God
Seen my whole life flash before my eyes
And now it's getting dark body temp drop
Going in shock prying out of fear close my eyes
Take my last breath and I'm out here
In my life I smoked a lot of weed
Drunk a lot beer sold a lot of keys
But that shit don't even matter here
Somebody said walk toward the light
But I ain't not ready to go
Am I dead is it over you ain't ready to know

[T.I.]
Well now I moving toward the light
And I ain't walking or nothing
I ain't like the shit
Well hell I guess ain't use for me to try to fight
The shit what the business is you God
I been waiting to meet you
And I know I been hearing bout yall my life
But like the one day I would see you
But why you let dem niggas kill me
you could have done something why you ain't come down there
And shield me when them niggas started busin
Then he say excuse thee
But I control no hate in
And it coming not from me
Well who coming from? Satin
Oh Satin did this excuse me lord
But now that niggas on my shit list and
I know with all this fly shit you got a A-K
Or a pistol grip give me a click of angels and some bullet proof wing lufica finna get pistol whipped alive or dead I ain't scared
Who he think he is fuck with Tip
I got a A-K two 45's bout 50 clip I'm fixto dip
I ain't borrow shit I'm fixto trip
Put a piston grip and loose thy lip
And then he say two wrong doing make it not a right one a last
Well forgiven me cause
I'm bout to ride out on Lufica ass
And all I need you to do is give me
The strength and lord you know I'm need you
With the shit I'm fixto attempt
I'm fix to bust hell wide open fear don't control me
and I'm O.G. hell can't hold me

[T.I.]
Now 'Pac and Biggie want ride too
I guess that's cool sense that muthafucker
The reason yall niggas had to die too
My nigga Bankhead had to realize too
Shawty let ride
It's 4serious up here dough
Cause we don't ride we glade
Now I'm strapped and ready folks
But I can't steam to do a thing
With these wings how I'm supposed to keep them steady folks
With a chopper on back of two 44's shawty no
A the pain we fixto bring
I don't thing he even ready for
When it's on you already know
Farewell bro. mama always told me
I was bad enough to tear hell up
IM doing this for what you made of
From that time you made the bitch eat the apple
to the time you pick your folks
To put us on the boat and enslave us
Worker that never paid us
Killed Malcolm X, Martin Luther King
and everybody else tried to come down here us
Killed my father that raised us
Kidnapped us from our country
Take your distance in our religional way
Well now it's time for the cadet to busted
We want our spirits and our minds back now
IM getting mines right now
Pussy nigga lye it down I'm walkin
Thought hell kicking the devil doors down
spreading rounds waving cadet rounds
Well I woke up I was lying down shawty
WHAT HAPPENED?


hmm the website i got it from left some lyrcis out so some lines may not make sense
 
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illmatic said:
whys that? it's a classic album; and i know more about hip hop than you son. so quit with the insults
artfag said:
haha, you know more about hip hop than me

no shit it's a classic album, hence why YOU are a disgrace to the name

artfag said:
and you are a disgrace to the name 'illmatic', i really am quite offended

it quite clear that illmatic knows little about what self proclaimed 'hip hop heads' claim is 'real hip hop' and it is clear that artfag thinks he is one of those 'hip hop heads'
 

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what on earth are you talking about
 

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hiphophorray123 said:
it quite clear that illmatic knows little about what self proclaimed 'hip hop heads' claim is 'real hip hop' and it is clear that artfag thinks he is one of those 'hip hop heads'

?? ummm..???
 

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gunshots]

[Nas talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talkin 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

This verse is nothing really. He's just blabbering on, talking about nothing here. How good he is etc.. Nothing special at all.

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fuckin ring

[Chorus]

I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly actin, envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?

The last line makes no sense. This is a diss track aimed at Jay-Z (or mainly aimed at), and yet he's talking about how Jay-Z is "all out for his money".. yet Jay-Z is 10 times richer than Nas. Lets not forget he owns his own clothing line, shoes, record company etc.. Jay-Z wouldnt even NEED to be all out for Nas' cash because he's already rich like a motherfucker.

When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle

This is just immature shit. "Gay-Z"?? "Cockafella Records"?? Comon man grow up a little. 'To explode it on a camel' is funny tho, as many people say Jigga looks like a camel.

This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live

This is what shits me. MAny people are talking about how Jay-Z stole the name "The Blueprint" from KRS-One (Jay released an album called The Blueprint)... They talking about how he's a biter etc... BUT THAT'S BULLSHIT. Nas was exaggerating so much. KRS-One released an album called "Ghetto Music: The Blueprint of Hip-Hop"... i mean, that's a small similarity - but it's not enough to call Jay-Z a full fledged biter because of that... So again, Nas is making up bullshit

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers

Did the last line really happen?

All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class

36? I think he's only 36 now.

You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?

Honestly, i doubt they were naming their record label after someone because of his death - they were naming it after him because of his life. A success story, being rich and wealthy. So Nas, Rocafeller lived the life, and thats the guy they named their company after.

Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Kane, to Irv, to Big

Ok. Jay-Z was hanging around with different people. Who gives a flying fuck who he's hanging around with?

And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit

He's talking about Renegade. But Nas has been murdered on his own shit plenty of times

You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Sean Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss



first verse was shit but the second and third were hard




Ether is full of cheap useless shit. Ill break it down for you.
Nas has this to say:

* He calls Jay-Z gay.
* He calls him a biter, sometimes when he's not supposed to (see his comment on Jigga stealing KRS-One's albuim name)
* Talking about how he's hanging around with different people..
* How he named his label after some guy who died from aids, even though they named it after a guy who lived the life.
* the rest is bullshit



Yep.
 
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chopping and changing people isn't respected over there.

yeah childish calling jay-z gay, but funny

i think the last 5 lines were what hit jay the hardest

most of them were true as well, though bit suspect on the jaz one, that 'beef' between jay-z and jaz-o over 'you stole my name' was stupid

'how much of biggies rhymes is gonna come out ya fat lips' lol that was the best line
 
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hiphophorray123 said:
chopping and changing people isn't respected over there.

yeah childish calling jay-z gay, but funny

i think the last 5 lines were what hit jay the hardest

most of them were true as well, though bit suspect on the jaz one, that 'beef' between jay-z and jaz-o over 'you stole my name' was stupid

'how much of biggies rhymes is gonna come out ya fat lips' lol that was the best line

whats the deal with what u sed about me and artfag before?
 

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