Not-That-Bright said:
The people of taiwan should be allowed to declare independance.
For 50 years they have been living cut off from PRC government... living cut off from PRC influence..
Let it go.
Mate is that an arguement?
Either way, the UN even recognise Taiwan to be part of China, what say does the Australian government have? Let alone you.
But Taiwan was only taken from the Dutch around 300 years ago.
The Chinese had no contingent of people there before hand administring Taiwan.
But my @$$.
Quote:
Archaeologists have found evidence of prehistoric human habitation in Taiwan that dates back 12,000 to 15,000 years, indicating that Taiwan's earliest inhabitants came from at least two places: southern China and Austronesia. In general, early settlers from southern China settled in northern and central Taiwan, while Australoid settlements were mainly in southern Taiwan and along the eastern coast. These early settlers, which now compose Taiwan's indigenous peoples, make up less than 2 percent of Taiwan's population.
Link:
http://www.gio.gov.tw/taiwan-website/5-gp/yearbook/chpt02.htm#2
ok i doubt 99% of people aren't in favour of the splitting up.. but i'd say most people are either in favour of splitting up or of the taiwanese government controling mainland china.
What you said about china always having its current border is also very long... for ages mongols controlled large sections of china...
Why do u think reunification must happen? China has been going fine without taiwan... hey it sounds like all would happen is china would completely desimate taiwan so what are they losing?
Is it nationalist pride?
According to surveys done by Taiwan universities, around 12% of Taiwanese want "independence immediately" with an apparently slow paced increasing trend since the 1996 missile crisis till current.
So yeah, not 99% (which ever idiot managed to come up with that number)
Are you saying that Taiwan will benefit from reunifying from China?
The main reason why most don't want to be reuinified is because they know that it will be a sour deal for them.
More like they're losers and wants to continue to split from their motherland.
Yeah, take a look back at history.
Taiwan was once part of China during World War 2, ruled under the KMT, a party. It was not until, the Communist party started to attack the KMT, at that time those communist were considered as rebels. After the PRC finally won the war with KMT, the KMT fled to Taiwan.
See here, Taiwan wanted to depart itself from China due to one simple factor--- it was a communist society, one that was totally ultimate with the capitalist---Taiwan.
Now after 50 years of independence from China, and with absolutoly no help from China, and with differ systems socailly, politically, economiclly,etc. why should it unify all of a sudden?
RIDICULOUS >"<
And did you know why the KMT lost? It's because of their widespread of corruption and so most peasants turn to the communists and fought against the KMT's.
Even the Americans recognised that (decades after when China had nuclear weapons LOL).
Chinese boarders have been split before,OK. Remeber when the Mongolians took over China?! Remeber the 宋 dynasty? There is a bunch a facts I can prove. PLEASE , I BEG U,PLEASE,check out the internet before you make wrong comments, you are leading everyone in the wrong direction!!!!!
For gods sake, 90% of European country's boarder have been changing throughout history, the maps then are probably not very accurate anyway.
We are only playing a fair political game here, trying to gain global recognition. AND IF CHINA WANTS TO SURVIVE WHY DO THEY NEED TAIWAN? OR DO THEY JUST WANT OUR BLOODY MONEY? OR DESTROY OUR ECNOMICS?I'D LOVE TO KNOW.
China and Taiwan eventually reunited either way, there's no way Taiwan would be able to hold out the PLA.
It's either unifiication through slow peace talks or unifiication in one go on the battlefield, and by the looks of the trend, Chen is leading the Taiwanese to the battlefield in a zig-zag road.
They also realize that it was China's intransigence that prevented the island from receiving much-needed international emergency medical assistance during the 1999 earthquake and the 2003 SARS crisis--conduct that contributed to the deaths of hundreds of Taiwanese.
Much needed my cock.
If the Taiwanese would just stop begging the Americans to rip them from in arms sales, they might be able to afford it.
The hundreds of missiles that Beijing has deployed directly opposite Taiwan and its refusal to renounce the use of force to take the island reinforce the view that China is an unfriendly and threatening power. In order to counter Beijing's military buildup and its increasingly intimidating posture, Taiwan's taxpayers must spend billions on defense instead of using the money to bolster education, health care or other social services.
Why should they be threatened if Taiwanese indeed does not support independence? The PRC has
clearly stated they prefer peaceful reunification. But say thank you to Chen, he rejected that offer, and seems to accept it after his election in 2004 (but even i can guess it's fake) and then he goes back to the independence road again within months (if not weeks).
If Beijing is serious about reducing cross-strait tensions and promoting harmony, it must abandon its bellicose threats and sneaky schemes designed to isolate Taiwan from the international community. Beijing would also be well advised to show some flexibility toward the meaning of "one China" and resume cross-strait negotiations without preconditions. As Chen has observed, the two sides could discuss anything if only Beijing will agree to do so.
If Chen indeed wants these recessions, then they should agree that they ARE part of China, known as Republic of China or Taiwan, China
ONLY and not suggest to change the island's name to Republic of Taiwan (my cock). If they recognised themselves as Chinese (the fact is they are), then they won't even need to cry inorder to be recognised internationally officially, as mainland China will do it for them automatically, if they needed financial aid, mainland China has heaps of money in their reserve bank which can be used to build their army capable in crushing the ROC armed forces like an ant, but they didn't.
