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TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELVES! The Worrying rise of a conservative youth! (2 Viewers)

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jdcb4 said:
To digress:
In practice do you think Radical Left ot Right is most promising? I am a self admitted conservative, so this probably will be (Spectacularly) biased, but nonetheless, in practice:

Extreme Right:
Nazi Germany
Facist Italy
Fascist Spain
All monarchys/autocracy from Rome through Russia pre WWI

Extreme Left:
USSR
Cuba
Vietnam
China

It seems to me that, although many human rights abuses occured in extreme right controlled countries, the Rights generally had better stability, economic prosperity and even (Thugh Nazism was shocking) better human rights than their left wing counterparts. (China and USSR both had mass killings that almost paled the Nazis genocide)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating either system or excusing the abuses under these systems, but do you find that Extrme Right generally came out better over extreme left?

My highest level of historical qualification is a bit of HSC Modern so I'm by no means trying to insist that this is right!
Thats an incorrect count, the Nazis/Fascists were just as left as the soviet union. Lets review the Fascist system:

* Little or no economic freedom
* De-emphasis on the indavidual
* De-emphasis on personal responsibility
* De-emphasis on traditional values (yes planned breeding cults are not the same as the nuclear family)
* All the hallmarks of wacko leftie ideals, such as obsession with greenery and overt intervention in the day to day life of the citizenry.

The nationalism argument doesen't fly either, as both the Soviet Union and Communist China were as equally nationalistic as the national socialist or fascist.
 

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Not-That-Bright said:
Vietnams biggest problem was interference from the USSR and invasion by the US.
Its biggest problem however was implementing a socio-economic system that is doomed to fail from the start.
 

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