The HSC is too Easy (1 Viewer)

[Steven88]

Seriouslly the HSC has become so easy that 90 is not enough anymore...you need to get like 95 in everything to get high UAI...I think that in general we are too prepared for the exams, we know how to get full marks for certain types of questions and what too expect...like when the new HSC came out in 2000 or whenever they didnt know what to expect so getting early 80s got you a over 95 UAI...now you need 90s in almost everything to get that!!...Serioully what the hell!!! this is so stupid!!!...My cousin did the HSC in 1997 averaged 65 in her alined HSC marks and got a 98.15 UAI .... getting those marks this year wont even get you 50 UAI!!!!

 

[tempco]

so what's your point? the hsc still does what it's designed to do.

 

[gordo]

hardly
many ppl at uni drop out after first yr...
so much for the credibility of a uai.

 

[tempco]

correction then, it still does what it always did.

and dropping out doesn't usually have anything to do with not coping with a degree, intelligence wise.

 

[gordo]

i agree with that

although i don;t agree with your edit

 

[tempco]

whats your opinion then? "dumb" people make it into "smart" degrees?

 

[Lennie]

i think its getting harder actually. every year, as the standard increases, the markers raise the bar.
its still damn hard to get 95+

 

[gordo]

i don't see the uai as judging your dumb/smartness at all.
Anyone who has done the hsc knows that it is a meaningless measure of intelligence.

the criteria to get one is totally different from the criteria required to complete a university degree

uai requirements at uni are just supply and demand, the maths i am doing which requires a uai of 90 is 10 times harder than the law which requires 99.

therefore, instead of implementing an hsc system that will prepare you for a uni degree. You end up with a meaningless number which for a brief superficial stage, gives some people an ego boost.

edit: in no way shape or form does it provide any anything useful.

 

[tempco]

maths on your aeronautical part of your degree? sounds like fun!

and i agree with you your view on the uai. so true about the ego boost.

 

[A l]

Seriouslly the HSC has become so easy that 90 is not enough anymore...you need to get like 95 in everything to get high UAI...I think that in general we are too prepared for the exams, we know how to get full marks for certain types of questions and what too expect...like when the new HSC came out in 2000 or whenever they didnt know what to expect so getting early 80s got you a over 95 UAI...now you need 90s in almost everything to get that!!...Serioully what the hell!!! this is so stupid!!!...My cousin did the HSC in 1997 averaged 65 in her alined HSC marks and got a 98.15 UAI .... getting those marks this year wont even get you 50 UAI!!!!

I agree. The Board of Studies has been criticised recently for its easy standards setting procedure. While it is supposedly easier to gain access to higher aligned marks, these marks DO NOT affect your UAI. ALIGNED MARKS are not used for scaling and thus have no effect on your UAI.
In fact, it is more difficult to gain high raw examination marks. RAW EXAMINATION MARKS are the basis of marks used for scaling. According to HSC 2001 when, now former HSC student, James King requested for his raw marks, he got raw HSC marks of something like 60-70 in English and Mathematics this was aligned to 90+ as reported marks. A shocking statistic along the fact that a fail was practically aligned to a pass.
Students are indeed getting more and more competitive every year. This is the main reason that it is more and more difficult to obtain high UAIs. This does not necessarily mean that the HSC exam itself is "easy" in terms of content assessed. People are becoming more and more familiar with the structure of the new HSC and the accompanying syllabus, so students are usually more prepared than the students of previous years.
Even schools have become more competitive with every successive year, probably to excel the results that they had obtained in previous years. Take James Ruse Agricultural High School for example. Their median UAI for 2003 was 99.3 and for 2004 the median UAI was 99.5, so the bar has been raised.

This thread could be of relevence to this topic:
http://www.boredofstudies.org/community/showthread.php?t=58972

 

[JamiL]

i don't see the uai as judging your dumb/smartness at all.
Anyone who has done the hsc knows that it is a meaningless measure of intelligence.

the criteria to get one is totally different from the criteria required to complete a university degree

uai requirements at uni are just supply and demand, the maths i am doing which requires a uai of 90 is 10 times harder than the law which requires 99.

therefore, instead of implementing an hsc system that will prepare you for a uni degree. You end up with a meaningless number which for a brief superficial stage, gives some people an ego boost.

edit: in no way shape or form does it provide any anything useful.

totally agree, degress like engineering are the hardest degress, all maths n physics, like civil n electrical. they require uaiz as low as 75 in some uniz.... while law, medicine are so difficult 2 get in2 but r much easyer

 

[tempco]

totally agree, degress like engineering are the hardest degress, all maths n physics, like civil n electrical. they require uaiz as low as 75 in some uniz.... while law, medicine are so difficult 2 get in2 but r much easyer

politics, prestige/status, and as gordo stated, supply/demand.

 

[Tuna]

just get 50 for everything for one year. there's plenty of time to repeat. Who knows if getting 50 for everything this year will get you a uai of 80?

 

[get_born]

no way in hell is the hsc easy...there is so much pressure and stress, ok so the work is doable...but the stress and pressure is so not!

 

[Trebla]

there's plenty of time to repeat.

Repeating is just stupid. A cheap way to try and ace the HSC. Who would want to spend another year of their lives in the stresses and pressures of the HSC again? You've just wasted 1-2 years of your life in your first attempt, if you do repeat. Besides I recall that you are only allowed to repeat at a maximum of 5 times.

 

[Trev]

Besides I recall that you are only allowed to repeat at a maximum of 5 times.

Has anyone actually done that?!

 

[tempco]

Repeating is just stupid. A cheap way to try and ace the HSC. Who would want to spend another year of their lives in the stresses and pressures of the HSC again? You've just wasted 1-2 years of your life in your first attempt, if you do repeat. Besides I recall that you are only allowed to repeat at a maximum of 5 times.

you do realise that 1 year is nothing, compared to what other people commit to right?

e.g. doing the GAMSAT more than once to get into med.

 

[physician]

Has anyone actually done that?!

well rather than doing the HSC 5 times u may have heard of many schools who allow students to sit for an HSC exam whilst still in year 8... in yr 9 they may sit another subjcet , yr 10 another, 11 and then in yr 12 sit a final subject... accumualting to 10 units....

or some schools may let u do the HSC over 3 years... 1-2 subjects in yr 10... 2 in yr 11, 2 in yr 12 depending on how many units u wish to do...

so it's not necessarily that u can repeat 5 times (not that i'm saying u can't... because u can) ... however the rule states that ur marks can accumulate towards ur UAI for a maximum of 5 years...

I think James ruse has a year 8 kid or had a year 8 kid doing a subject for their HSC

I know Malek Fahd Islamic school accelerates students in yr 10... not sure about yr 9... but i think they're working their way to accelerating a year 8 student...

doing subjects over 3 years would be so much more comfortable....

 

[phatic]

Repeating is just stupid. A cheap way to try and ace the HSC. Who would want to spend another year of their lives in the stresses and pressures of the HSC again? You've just wasted 1-2 years of your life in your first attempt, if you do repeat. Besides I recall that you are only allowed to repeat at a maximum of 5 times.

I remind myself of that almost every day. I imagine I've got a better chance of getting into uni with a good UAI than with a TPC. Gah, I wish I studied for the exams the first time round. :/

 

[ElGronko]

1. Fuck you, the HSC sucks the wang, I don't think I'm gonna make it.

2. A UAI is a rank, unless less people start doing the HSC (unlikly) it will be just as hard to get a good UAI as always. If your UAI is 98 you will always be in the top 2% of the state. That doesn't change.

And the HSC sucks.

Die.