Armani
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So what does the government lose by privatising CityRail? Loss of revenue? Or is no one willing to buy?
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I suspect there are many people in the NSW right of the ALP who would support privitisation, however the unions are against it, and Costa is a former union official andthey exert considerable influence over the government. I guess you could say the objection is on ideological grounds rather than practical ones.Armani said:
The Carr government did originally plan to privitise the electricity industry but they were forced to back down, particulary because of objections from the lunatic left faction
Armani
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Without describing whether the left is lunatic or not, unless your applying that to a proportion of the left and not the whole, what do the 'lunatic' left have to gain from going against privatisation?
loony left/lunatic left etc..... this is just a name given to politicians of the left in general, in this case the socialist left faction of the ALPArmani said:
as i said, their objection is primarily on ideological grounds rather than practical ones. if you talked to someone like sandra nori, andrew refshauge, john watkins etcl. they would probably give you a whole swag of arguments such as it is easier to ensure government outcomes, greater control, ensures benfits to the whole of society etc etc. i don't really accept them, i think privitisation would deliver huge benefits accross all areas
Armani
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The left is not lunatic. Some of their claims are justified as is that of the right.
Isn't the airport line privatised??? cause one day we traveled on a state transit pass, cause dad works for ferries, and they said that we couldn't use the pass cause the line wasn't run by city rail or something.Armani said:
I've heard Connex have put in a tender for the sydney railways
who knows, it could be privatised? but that'd only realistically happen after the clearways initiative has been completed by 2010 or whatever
The cost to us consumers though is a disadvantage, with privatisation comes increased prices (just look at the Airport line, its like $10 one way to one of the airport line stations)
Oh, and I'm all for a "fare-free" day, means I can travel to Newcastle, or Lithgow, or Goulburn for free!
who knows, it could be privatised? but that'd only realistically happen after the clearways initiative has been completed by 2010 or whatever
The cost to us consumers though is a disadvantage, with privatisation comes increased prices (just look at the Airport line, its like $10 one way to one of the airport line stations)
Oh, and I'm all for a "fare-free" day, means I can travel to Newcastle, or Lithgow, or Goulburn for free!
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Just like prices decreased when insurance was deregulated... you know for about a year...ohne said:
But I think privatisation might be a decent model if it's implemented properly. I've heard the Victorian system works well then on the other hand whatever the hell the British have is absolutely appalling.
thejosiekiller
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privatisation in my opinion will not mean better and greater services....the way i see it its just a business the government is trying to offload on to anyone to avoid responsibility anymore for the state of the rail network & workers.
Phanatical
Happy Lala
1) NOTHING has been improved through privatisation. The reason the railways are falling apart now is because they Were privatised. 15 years ago, the Railways had a workforce of 40000 people on the tracks, and it was Greiner and Fahey who fucked the railways up. When Carr finally got control of the railways again, the workforce was one tenth of what it was before.
Not-That-Bright
Andrew Quah
Protesting by not paying your ticket will do nothing, the government needs to invest alot of money in the railway and spend alot of time (probably a massive re-structure over the next 20 years) to get it working fine. I hope that everyone who tries to do this gets a fine, just as if you are unsatisfied with the price of qantas tickets you shouldn't be allowed to just board in protest...
If you people want a better rail system be prepared for higher taxes / less money in other sectors... However i have seen a survey that claims people want higher taxes and an increase in services, tho i kinda think that's decieving as any increase in services would take too long to occur and people would assume nothing happened.
If you people want a better rail system be prepared for higher taxes / less money in other sectors... However i have seen a survey that claims people want higher taxes and an increase in services, tho i kinda think that's decieving as any increase in services would take too long to occur and people would assume nothing happened.
They already are looking towards restructuring - specifically tendering for the return of single deck carriages. The return of single deck trains (remember those red rattlers when you were 5?) means greater frequency of trains, cheaper to run, and quicker passenger turnover per station, which means there would be a net gain over double deck carriages (taking into account the greater space in those)