undergraduate med @unsw (2 Viewers)

[mervvyn]

yes, it is very much a possibility - it takes excellent uni marks though, so if you already have a very good uai, you may not want to complete a full academic year. other people here can probably explain it better though.

 

[nit]

Originally posted by Lexicographer
Yes...that's what average means.

Well it depends on what you would define as "average" I guess. By convention it's mean or median, and the mode can have little or no effect on those...so unless average is intrinsically defined as "mode", which it rarely is, sikeveo may have a legitimate point

Also, disregarding the use of "average" in a statistical sense and casting our attention towards the more colloquial usage of the word, it's apparent that "average" is a value judgment, in contrast to a statistical judgment - it is inherently qualitative as opposed to quantitative in any sense. ie an average dinner doesn't mean that most dinners are like that, rather that those dinners can not quite be accorded the status of "good" or "bad" from your viewpoint. Extending this qualitative measure of "good" and "bad" is in turn depends largely on the environment and preconceptions of the person formulating the judgment.

OK that was random

 

[nellyei]

To answer the origional posters Q, i know of somebody who got 96.35 and got into UNSW this year. But he did pretty awesome in the UMAt - 205 scaled and 285%.

With your UAI i'd think you would have to perform pretty good on the UMAT, cause i have never heard of someone (outside of boredofstudies) getting into Med through the UMAT besides the Gamsat.

I thought newcastle ahd a shorter degree cause it didn't offer the bachelor of surgery bit, which made any med students coming out of newcastle not eligible for surgery.

I think aiming for UNSW is a tad unrealistic because I have a <98 UAI, so I'll look into UWS a bit and maybe overseas (Malaysian) uni's with twinning.

How do you apply to a malaysian university for Med! And wouldn't the course be in malaysian?

 

[Vampire]

yes, it is very much a possibility - it takes excellent uni marks though, so if you already have a very good uai, you may not want to complete a full academic year. other people here can probably explain it better though.

ummm could someone elaborate please? Full academic year? Any links to where this info is given?

thx in advance...

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

To answer the origional posters Q, i know of somebody who got 96.35 and got into UNSW this year. But he did pretty awesome in the UMAt - 205 scaled and 285%.

With your UAI i'd think you would have to perform pretty good on the UMAT, cause i have never heard of someone (outside of boredofstudies) getting into Med through the UMAT besides the Gamsat.

I thought newcastle ahd a shorter degree cause it didn't offer the bachelor of surgery bit, which made any med students coming out of newcastle not eligible for surgery.



How do you apply to a malaysian university for Med! And wouldn't the course be in malaysian?

it should be taught in English...

cos its from Monash.. and some of the lecturers will be from Australia..

the clinical will be malaysian focussed tho..

 

[mervvyn]

ummm could someone elaborate please? Full academic year? Any links to where this info is given?

thx in advance...

have a look in the med forum for starters, it has been discussed a few times recently. i don't know if specific information to your satisfaction exists on the unsw med website, but that would be a good place to start i guess.

a full academic year is 36 credit points or more at unsw i think (most people do 48 or so = 4x6CP subjects per semester), where you have an offical result for those 36cp. it varies from uni to uni in terms of actual numbers, but not too greatly i don't think.

the newcastle thing is just a name, the course is shorter because it's structured differently and probably a bit more condensed in the first few years than say unsw.

 

[Bob.J]

I thought newcastle ahd a shorter degree cause it didn't offer the bachelor of surgery bit, which made any med students coming out of newcastle not eligible for surgery.

...

no med course teaches their students to become a surgeon. No one gets training on operating on real live bodies until they are in their specialising course (and that alone is not affected by which medical school you graduated from)


'MBBS' is old school, newcastle isn't 'old school'

it's shorter because in unsw you spend that research year or something, and they do more general education units (ie. money/time wasters)

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

LOLz... sorry its just funny..

Bob.J is right

 

[CapnCath]

On Ya Bob J!

You will not be disadvantaged from a Bachelor of Medicine. Newcastle just chose to combine Bachelor of Medicine/Bachelor of Surgery under one shorter name. You don't graduate as a surgeon, it takes years to specialise after you graduate and if you're a graduate from BMed you can certainly apply for surgery.

In 2nd year in UNSW you're required to enrol in General Education courses and complete projects with students outside of medicine (Eg Arts students) . Also you must to do an Independent Learning Project in either 3rd or 4th year.
Hence the longer (wasted?) time.

 

[mervvyn]

you don't have to do arts, but it does add an extra year. not my cup of tea. aside from the gen ed subjects, which are a nice idea but do take time and money, i get the impression that the medical content at uncle is more condensed in the first few years - a common complaint for us is that we feel we know nothing, and it's only partly an exaggeration. plus uncle's health equity thing is 6 mths or so isn't it?

 

[Lexicographer]

UWA has a six year course, but instead of GenEds throughout* UWA Medicine has medical options every year. This year (Med II) I'm enrolled in the most competitive option, Surgery.



*there is a single one in the very first semester, I guess it lets you meet the rest of the uni before you kiss them all goodbye for evar)

 

[+Po1ntDeXt3r+]

i got to do 18 cp worth of gen eds.. 1/4 of the 'load' for the 1st 3 yrs..

so i took a lot of them in sciences/medicine subjects lolz...
i took one arts one.. and i fell asleep..