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Well isn’t that depressing to think about? That goes to show how bad the general education system is in America than anything and honestly if you need the equivalent of an 85 atar effort to get such a low score shows more about how unready the student is for uni. Regardless, those who actually use the SAT to obtain admission into Australian universities are mostly American from what I can understand and I don’t think they make up majority of international students here, if anything they’re more like large piggy banks for the universities.When they say that a 1240 SAT is equivalent to an 85 ATAR, they dont mean the ‘value’ of the score being equivalent, they mean the amount of effort, studies, resources etc that get you an 1240 in the us is equivalent to an 85 atar in australia
that's ridiculousWhen they say that a 1240 SAT is equivalent to an 85 ATAR, they dont mean the ‘value’ of the score being equivalent, they mean the amount of effort, studies, resources etc that get you an 1240 in the us is equivalent to an 85 atar in australia
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It's funny how all these Australian institutions have a reduced atar equivalent for internationals (atleast 5 points lower than domestic), yet all these overseas institutions hold international applicants at a much higher standard than their domestic applicants. (requiring you to be above top 2% of your region)
USyd and UNSW think a 1240 SAT (piss fucking easy exam btw) is worth the same as a 85 atar.
do you realise how fucking dumb you have to be to get a 1240 SAT?
1240 SAT is literally fucking awful, it means you couldn't do fucking simple maths and basic reading, grammar and punctuation at all - most likely due to low IQ more than anything else.
UNSW also thinks 1370 out of 1600 SAT is good enough for Medicine (1370 is only 91st percentile of ALL test takers in the US according to CollegeBoard)
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I'm sure almost all of you can get higher than 1370 on first try: https://bluebook.collegeboard.org/students
1370 SAT doesn't even hold up to US colleges of similar rank to usyd (qs rank 25th) and unsw (qs rank 20th) (brown university qs rank 69th - average SAT score 1540 out of 1600).
thats true, and thats where the faulty system comes inthat's ridiculous
you have to know content to get an 85 atar in australia. You can literally common sense your way to well above 1240 or 1370 in SAT first try...
ion think anyone actually thinks 1240 requires the same effort as 85 atar tbhthats true, and thats where the faulty system comes in
but generally thats how they do it (as i was told by my ex career advisor)
American internationals are almost always higher quality than Indian or Chinese since they can atleast speak EnglishWell isn’t that depressing to think about? That goes to show how bad the general education system is in America than anything and honestly if you need the equivalent of an 85 atar effort to get such a low score shows more about how unready the student is for uni. Regardless, those who actually use the SAT to obtain admission into Australian universities are mostly American from what I can understand and I don’t think they make up majority of international students here, if anything they’re more like large piggy banks for the universities.
When they say that a 1240 SAT is equivalent to an 85 ATAR, they dont mean the ‘value’ of the score being equivalent, they mean the amount of effort, studies, resources etc that get you an 1240 in the us is equivalent to an 85 atar in australia

