This annoys me, that I cant even APPLY bcoz my post code isnt on the listLaraB said:more than anything, it depends on the area peopel live coz you may have kick ass marks but ifur postcode ain'nt on the list you can't apply.. so depends on who can and can't apply each year a lot..... plus you gotta keep it by keeping up high academic succes once you get it
I agree 100% about the course at UWS. People from within the legal industry have said that it very well structured and is quite practical. I also agree that most people are extremely ignorant and stigmatise the uni and its graduates because of its location and low status level (primarily because its a relatively young uni). However, that proves my point - people (including employers) have these biases. I'm not agreeing with the majority, simply stating that it does exist and it may affect my employment chances.LaraB said:1 - um.. where did you hear thaht/who has said that? because put simply, it's not true.
of course the number of students at big law firms will be less - it's a new uni, plus a lot of people at uws don't necessarily want to become lawyers a lot want to be legal consultants in large corporate entities, enter alternative dispute resolution, add to another degree etc...
emplolyers will not favour someone from a more prestigious uni just on that basis - they're not that stupid. If you did a relevant course and achieved highly no one's gonan care if you went to uws.
that said - employers i have spoken to/heard etc all have quite significant respect for the course structure, uws teachers and students, the practical nature of the course, the abilty to apply our knowledge to the workplace etc etc...
EDIT : ps - what's to say that getting accepted into a big law firm means a more successful career anyway? most people dont stay at their first place of work, and if you're in a large firm at teh bottom rung, the experience gained may be less beneficial than if you were at a smaller firm and were higher 'ranked' i spose and thus gaining more 1st hand experience
2- just because it may foster a less academically competitive nature to applying to uws doesn't mean there isn't a positive learning environment.Very few people who are there don't wanna be there/don't want to learn, there's a big age range ie undergrads, 1st/2nd/3rd etc yr students, mature ages and post grade giving, i think, a more positive lerarning environemt as unlike other unis you have a huge range and variety of experiences and opinions to learn from...
oh, your comment about scholarships - it's not as easy as most people think
just don't make a decision before you come to the uni and talk to lecturers and students ie open day because unfortunately the vast majority of the non-uws attending population's view and opinions of teh uni are ill-informed/aimed to bag out the uni/just plain bullsh*t...
so come and talk to us before accepting those kinda opinions
well said Lara. Our course at UWS rules!LaraB said:1 - um.. where did you hear thaht/who has said that? because put simply, it's not true.
of course the number of students at big law firms will be less - it's a new uni, plus a lot of people at uws don't necessarily want to become lawyers a lot want to be legal consultants in large corporate entities, enter alternative dispute resolution, add to another degree etc...
emplolyers will not favour someone from a more prestigious uni just on that basis - they're not that stupid. If you did a relevant course and achieved highly no one's gonan care if you went to uws.
that said - employers i have spoken to/heard etc all have quite significant respect for the course structure, uws teachers and students, the practical nature of the course, the abilty to apply our knowledge to the workplace etc etc...
EDIT : ps - what's to say that getting accepted into a big law firm means a more successful career anyway? most people dont stay at their first place of work, and if you're in a large firm at teh bottom rung, the experience gained may be less beneficial than if you were at a smaller firm and were higher 'ranked' i spose and thus gaining more 1st hand experience
2- just because it may foster a less academically competitive nature to applying to uws doesn't mean there isn't a positive learning environment.Very few people who are there don't wanna be there/don't want to learn, there's a big age range ie undergrads, 1st/2nd/3rd etc yr students, mature ages and post grade giving, i think, a more positive lerarning environemt as unlike other unis you have a huge range and variety of experiences and opinions to learn from...
oh, your comment about scholarships - it's not as easy as most people think
just don't make a decision before you come to the uni and talk to lecturers and students ie open day because unfortunately the vast majority of the non-uws attending population's view and opinions of teh uni are ill-informed/aimed to bag out the uni/just plain bullsh*t...
so come and talk to us before accepting those kinda opinions
lol- but what she said was well said....and this course is goodCape said:Oh, thats a suck up, if ever I heard one
.at least I don't have to put up with all those USYD snobs anymore at UWS.Cape said:Oh! Glad your enjoying it
haha .... coming from a former USYD snobmatt#1 said:
just joking! Yeah, I was a bit snobby before when I went to Sydney Uni wasn't I?Cape said:haha .... coming from a former USYD snob
I didn't mean all the things I said about UWS though (obviously, or I wouldn't have transferred)...I just enjoyed stirring up the UWS students because so people here are really paranoid about what other people think about UWS.eep ... we aren't paranoid. Its more like sick to death of people saying that we are basically "dumb". You should know, you stirred a fair bit! But alls forgiven knowmatt#1 said:Yeah, I was a bit snobby before when I went to Sydney Uni wasn't I?
btw, why did you decide to transfer?I transferred because I really hated my Bachelor of Economics degree due mostly to all the maths it involved. I only chose it because I enjoyed Economics in year 12 and it was my highest HSC mark (93). Also, I completed a few business law and human resourse management units at Sydney Uni and really enjoyed them...so I decided that I wanted to study business (IR + HRM)/ laws. However, Law at USYD requires a 99.6+ UAI and that is a bit out of my reach. UWS, however only requires a UAI of about 91. That's why I transferredCape said:eep ... we aren't paranoid. Its more like sick to death of people saying that we are basically "dumb". You should know, you stirred a fair bit! But alls forgiven know
....and don't worry about what others say. You know as well as I do that you and 1000's of other UWS students aren't dumb.Cape said:
how ur finding ur first week here. btw, wat made u change our of curiousity?matt#1 said:
the first week was good. read my above post to see why i changedtheone123 said:
haha i don't mind lolCape said:Oh, thats a suck up, if ever I heard one
yeah maybe it kinda evens out coz far as i know every core unit i'll do so 1st,2nd,3rd year and at least half of my subjects 4th n 5th yr have examsCape said:
which kinda sucks