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Weather Channel Founder: Global Warming ‘Greatest Scam in History’ (2 Viewers)

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I was privileged to work with John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel in the year before it became a reality and then for the first of the 6 years I was fortunate to be the Director of Meteorology. No one worked harder than John to make The Weather Channel a reality and to make sure the staffing, the information and technology was the very best possible at that time. John currently works with KUSI in San Diego. He posts regularly. I am very pleased to present his latest insightful post.

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend. See John’s full blog story here.
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/?ic



finally someone with real common sense :eek:
 

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Yeah he's wrong, and so are you.

Also, the fact that he's using the term 'Global Warming' as all-encompassing for both natural and anthropogenic global warming shows that he has no idea what he's on about.
 

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Kwayera said:
Yeah he's wrong, and so are you.

Also, the fact that he's using the term 'Global Warming' as all-encompassing for both natural and anthropogenic global warming shows that he has no idea what he's on about.
You are wrong.

It is obvious which "global warming" he is talking about.
 

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I agree with Mr Weather Channel founder. I hope we don't screw ourselves over with any of these stupid emissions limiting schemes before we get some better evidence of this. I'm still hearing stuff from the skeptics side like the temperature change precedes the change in carbon emissions by 800 years etc...
 

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He sure did present alot of hard data and facts there
 

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Kwayera said:
Yeah he's wrong, and so are you.

Also, the fact that he's using the term 'Global Warming' as all-encompassing for both natural and anthropogenic global warming shows that he has no idea what he's on about.

Soooo you believe in Al Gore's silly message? The earth is heating up, yes and so is other planets in the solar system, you'll be surprised not much news have been discussed about global warming on Mars as well. This is all caused by the sun and it's activities, not us or driving a car that's causing global warming.



Global warming hit Mars:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece

Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html
 

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i see no actual point as to why anyone would make this shit up?
It may have started off as a 'genuine' concern in the scientific community, but these days there's lots of money in climate change science. Seriously, millions and millions in govt funding and from other groups.

Don't forget people usually specialise in a field, so if the work in that field dries up... they're out of a job. So I think the end result is that a lot of people get paid to look for something that isn't there.
 

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iamsickofyear12 said:
You are wrong.

It is obvious which "global warming" he is talking about.
Actually it is very important that he make himself clear. Without global warming (and indeed, CO2), life would not be possible on this planet.

A layperson could easily be forgiven for thinking that ALL global warming is bad, given the context.

chicky_pie said:
Soooo you believe in Al Gore's silly message? The earth is heating up, yes and so is other planets in the solar system, you'll be surprised not much news have been discussed about global warming on Mars as well. This is all caused by the sun and it's activities, not us or driving a car that's causing global warming.



Global warming hit Mars:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1720024.ece

Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html

Pluto is undergoing global warming, researchers find:
http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html
I have not watched An Inconvenient Truth or read any of the popular science dreck that followed it. I do not give a rat's arse what politicians think they know about anthropogenic global warming. I am a scientist, speaking from a scientist's learning; I do not care about petty blame games and squabbles over whose fault it is.

I speak on fact, not rhetoric, and anthropogenic global warming is a FACT. It is not caused by minute increases in the sun's output (which itself is on an eleven-year cycle). No astronomer or, indeed, climatologist worth their salt and publishing in a peer-reviewed journal would attribute it thus - and as for those spattered Times times reports, they're interesting and worthy of further study, certainly, but correlation does not equal causation.

I'd suggest you not comment further on the credibility (or, in your opinion, lack thereof) of anthropogenic climate change before you know something of the science behind it.
 

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i look at it this way -

even if there is NO global warming, no climate change, no melting ice caps, so what? are we going to double the exhaust gas we pump into the atmosphere? are we going to live like we used to, just because a major catastrophe has been proven incorrect?

it is not just about us human, what about the wildlife animals that are endangered, or have extinct? are they not because the way we live?

the presence of global warming is irrelevant. it is oh so easy to believe that our lifestyle is ok and nothing needs to change. in any case, we need to stop relying on non renewable commodities, and instead, create intergeneration equality and be the responsible people we can be.
 
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Hey wow Kwayera, I thought you were a skeptic? Good to see you're not! :)
 

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Enteebee said:
Hey wow Kwayera, I thought you were a skeptic? Good to see you're not! :)
I am a skeptic and a scientist, and as such, bound to accept facts as they are uncovered. *shrug*
 

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Kwayera said:
Actually it is very important that he make himself clear. Without global warming (and indeed, CO2), life would not be possible on this planet.

A layperson could easily be forgiven for thinking that ALL global warming is bad, given the context.



I have not watched An Inconvenient Truth or read any of the popular science dreck that followed it. I do not give a rat's arse what politicians think they know about anthropogenic global warming. I am a scientist, speaking from a scientist's learning; I do not care about petty blame games and squabbles over whose fault it is.

I speak on fact, not rhetoric, and anthropogenic global warming is a FACT. It is not caused by minute increases in the sun's output (which itself is on an eleven-year cycle). No astronomer or, indeed, climatologist worth their salt and publishing in a peer-reviewed journal would attribute it thus - and as for those spattered Times times reports, they're interesting and worthy of further study, certainly, but correlation does not equal causation.

I'd suggest you not comment further on the credibility (or, in your opinion, lack thereof) of anthropogenic climate change before you know something of the science behind it.

Is Al Gore bribing you to write all that stuff?

Those links I posted are not 'lack of credibility; it's real facts from 'real' scientists, who are not fooled by propaganda by Al Gore and his goonies.
 

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Kwayera said:
Actually it is very important that he make himself clear. Without global warming (and indeed, CO2), life would not be possible on this planet.

A layperson could easily be forgiven for thinking that ALL global warming is bad, given the context.
No, its not. It is obvious what he meant. It is clear to everyone what the point is. Stop being an idiot.

Kwayera said:
I speak on fact, not rhetoric, and anthropogenic global warming is a FACT.
It is not a fact. It's not even an educated guess... it's just a guess... the result of a convenient connection between a few pieces of data. Concluding that it is a fact based on the current evidence, the number of variables, and our limited knowledge is NOT SCIENCE.
 

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the result of a convenient connection between a few pieces of data.
What evidence do you believe causes scientists to imagine anthropogenic global warming is fact?
 

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I Read somewhere that in the US, Al Gores "An inconvenient truth" was going to be distrubuted to a majority of schools, then a court ruled that "An inconvenient truth" had over 11 errors... (exagerations etc..)

I also read somewhere that the predicted increase in temperature is 4Degrees over 110 years?
 

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wuddie said:
i look at it this way -

even if there is NO global warming, no climate change, no melting ice caps, so what? are we going to double the exhaust gas we pump into the atmosphere? are we going to live like we used to, just because a major catastrophe has been proven incorrect?

it is not just about us human, what about the wildlife animals that are endangered, or have extinct? are they not because the way we live?

the presence of global warming is irrelevant. it is oh so easy to believe that our lifestyle is ok and nothing needs to change. in any case, we need to stop relying on non renewable commodities, and instead, create intergeneration equality and be the responsible people we can be.
^ i like the way you think.

who cares whether global warming is a scam or not. we're still raping the environment with pollution and overuse of fossil fuels and logging and mining and so forth.

besides, even if it is a scam...i'd like to see it continue to be believed, if only because without the threat of disaster i think it will be too easy for people to do what they want regardless of the environment because they think nothing will happen. it's sad that we need the threat of the earth giving up and fucking off hanging over us to start implementing changes in our behaviour, but if that's how its gotta be, i dont see a problem with telling people that global warming is a fact. even if it isnt.
 

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iamsickofyear12 said:
It is not a fact. It's not even an educated guess... it's just a guess... the result of a convenient connection between a few pieces of data. Concluding that it is a fact based on the current evidence, the number of variables, and our limited knowledge is NOT SCIENCE.
would you like to define a model of scientific investigation that does not rely on convenient connections? what pray tell is the magic number of variables, the magic amount of evidence needed for something to transform from being not science to science? all science is inductive, if your argument is based on "but we're not 100% sure" you're arguing against the nature of knowledge not against global warming. you are arbitrarily putting the onus of proof upon one side of the debate, i fail to see how that can be defended in any model of science .at the moment evidence for human emissions precipitating an increase in global warming far outweighs that against, that is the definition of a scientific fact.
 

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chicky_pie said:
Is Al Gore bribing you to write all that stuff?

Those links I posted are not 'lack of credibility; it's real facts from 'real' scientists, who are not fooled by propaganda by Al Gore and his goonies.
Al Gore is a suspiciously motivated twit who has most of his facts wrong, but sadly has the general idea. I have not tainted myself with any of his materials.

If you want to read real scientific data, read the IPCC reports. NOT the watered down executive summary for politicians - the papers produced by the scientists.

Then come back to me and say what you have said.

iamsickofyear12 said:
It is not a fact. It's not even an educated guess... it's just a guess... the result of a convenient connection between a few pieces of data. Concluding that it is a fact based on the current evidence, the number of variables, and our limited knowledge is NOT SCIENCE.
So, by that reasoning, tectonic theory is not fact. Genetic theory is not fact. Evolution, indeed, is not fact.


I'd also like to point out that the scientific experimental method is defined by both repetition and null hypothesis - that is, all experiments are performed under the basis that the hypothesis being tested is incorrect. Take that and chew on it for a while.
 

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Al Gore: the proverbial Churchill warning the world about fascism in Europe.
 

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