what is the best cable plan? adsl vs cable (1 Viewer)

[dark_angel]

ok i'm getting confused, i heard that adsl is shitter in terms of speed than cable if cable is uncapped, but then why the hell is adsl the same price as cable, when its shitter? What is the best cable unlimited plan, in major terms regarding the cost?

this list is from telstra: Can someone please explain which one is better, what is the difference?


Plan Access MB Cost ($) Speed Excess

Cable Unlimited Cable Unlimited* $59.95 Uncapped/128 kbps

ADSL Unlimited 256/64kbps ADSL Unlimited* $59.95 256/64 kbps


thankyou

 

[jm1234567890]

cause not everyone can get cable

EDIT: and those ADSL prices are rather crappy

cheap for regional areas
www.exetel.com.au

cheap if you can get in its range
www.ii.net

and cable can be really slow at times

 

[dark_angel]

cause not everyone can get cable

so if i can get cable, will that be better?

 

[jm1234567890]

consider www.ii.net as well.... it is as fast as cable in most cases.

and, yeah cable is good for most people, but it isn't really unlimited.

after a number of gigs it will be shaped to dialup speeds for rest of month.

unlimited ADSL will always be fastish.

 

[dark_angel]

consider www.ii.net as well.... it is as fast as cable in most cases.

and, yeah cable is good for most people, but it isn't really unlimited.

after a number of gigs it will be shaped to dialup speeds for rest of month.

unlimited ADSL will always be fastish.

so what connection do you have?

 

[Assasinator_2]

ADSL is now far better than cable, since cable has tighter limits. Noone except the HUGE computer users need the speed of cable over ADSL, but adsl has far more liberal download limits.

iiNet have awesome adsl plans, especially if you bundle with iiPhone and are close to an iiNet DSLAM (8Mbit/second, when cable maxes out at 10)

Other than that, check Internode, westnet, et. al.

Also, go here, read the forums, and use broadband choice guide.

edit: Cable can be as slow as even the non-iiNet bundle plans, depending on how many users of it are in your local loop. Whereas ADSL is a Point-to-point proticol, meaning that each user gets the full bandwidth they pay for, cable is a system whereby the local loop gets a set amount of bandwidth, and as more users use it, every user slows down.

Not to mention that cable involves installing a completely seperate network infrastructure (the foxtel one, for telstra cable) whereas ADSL can run just through your normal copper phone lines.

Additionally, ADSL people can 'fast churn' between companies, which means that they can switch ISPs with a 40$ charge, and only be offline for a couple of hours, if that. Cable doesn't have that feature, and it comes in especially handy if another company releases a better plan than the one that you are on, and you want to swap.

 

[sladehk]

This is one of the best:
Australian Broadband News, discussion, information, links and more.
www.whirlpool.net.au

 

[LoneShadow]

I've got 512/128 kbs ADSL with Internode and I luv it. It's a bit expensive, $59.95, but worth the service I get. It has a dl limit of 16 GB, which is more than enough for me; The most I have mangaed to dl has been 13 GB. After the dl limit is exceeded they reduce your speed to 56kbs.

 

[dark_angel]

I've got 512/128 kbs ADSL with Internode and I luv it. It's a bit expensive, $59.95, but worth the service I get. It has a dl limit of 16 GB, which is more than enough for me; The most I have mangaed to dl has been 13 GB. After the dl limit is exceeded they reduce your speed to 56kbs.

ok so what would be the difference say between this and the telstra plan for cable which is cheaper, has unlimited downloads but capped at 10 gig?

what is cable downstream using a bit torrent client like bit comet, if your adsl is 512?

 

[Nguyen]

Telstra caps you after 10GB of downloading back to dial up speeds but Helstra Cable is unlimited in speed meaning it will download as fast as the server can send at.

It will always download as fast as the other person sending it to you on the other side when using bit torrents, speeds will fluctuate from 1k/s to well over 100k/s.

512 = 64kilobytes per second meaning if using bit torrents he'll get stuck at 64k/s even if it's possible to recieve at a higher speed, ADSL 512 plans will be capped at 64k/s download speeds.

 

[theone123]

Telstra caps you after 10GB of downloading back to dial up speeds but Helstra Cable is unlimited in speed meaning it will download as fast as the server can send at.

It will always download as fast as the other person sending it to you on the other side when using bit torrents, speeds will fluctuate from 1k/s to well over 100k/s.

512 = 64kilobytes per second meaning if using bit torrents he'll get stuck at 64k/s even if it's possible to recieve at a higher speed, ADSL 512 plans will be capped at 64k/s download speeds.

my firend dls over 100 GB for Telstra and they dont capped the speed :S

 

[Nguyen]

Because Telstra says in fine print, it may chooses to cap you or not, up to their discretion.

BUt it seems a hard cap is going to be introduced or is introduced from what I read on whirlpool

 

[dark_angel]

Telstra caps you after 10GB of downloading back to dial up speeds but Helstra Cable is unlimited in speed meaning it will download as fast as the server can send at.

It will always download as fast as the other person sending it to you on the other side when using bit torrents, speeds will fluctuate from 1k/s to well over 100k/s.

512 = 64kilobytes per second meaning if using bit torrents he'll get stuck at 64k/s even if it's possible to recieve at a higher speed, ADSL 512 plans will be capped at 64k/s download speeds.

omg what is with these terms, i always thought that 512 was the actual speed limit in kilobytes, meaning that the speed was like 512 max,

why does it have to be divided by 12 or whatever it is, why cant they just leave it at 512?

So right now i'm guesssing that i should go for the telstra cable deal for around 60 dollars.

i also heard that adsl needs to be like boosted, because the messages disperse?!?? Whats the difference between a cable line, is it copper as well?


edit: i just found this

BigPond hits up heavy users
BigPond will start implementing automatic speed reductions after users exceed 10GB from as early as tomorrow according to sources at Teletech.

 

[dark_angel]

Maybe because you want to know it in Kilobytes per second?
Not kilobits !

Geez...

Dulce bellum inexpertis.

 

[Nguyen]

Marketing ploy to make the speeds look bigger than they really are. Anyway divide by 8 for those numbers in Kilobits to become KiloBytes.

 

[fatmuscle]

wow, i only found out the new optus deals!




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If you'd like some more information on this great reward click here or you can view the terms and conditions.

We hope that you enjoy your bonus 'yes' data.

 

[jm1234567890]

omg what is with these terms, i always thought that 512 was the actual speed limit in kilobytes, meaning that the speed was like 512 max,

why does it have to be divided by 12 or whatever it is, why cant they just leave it at 512?

So right now i'm guesssing that i should go for the telstra cable deal for around 60 dollars.

i also heard that adsl needs to be like boosted, because the messages disperse?!?? Whats the difference between a cable line, is it copper as well?


edit: i just found this

BigPond hits up heavy users
BigPond will start implementing automatic speed reductions after users exceed 10GB from as early as tomorrow according to sources at Teletech.

cable lines are coaxial, like your tv line. massive bandwidth.

 

[withoutaface]

I've got 512/128 kbs ADSL with Internode and I luv it. It's a bit expensive, $59.95, but worth the service I get. It has a dl limit of 16 GB, which is more than enough for me; The most I have mangaed to dl has been 13 GB. After the dl limit is exceeded they reduce your speed to 56kbs.

I pay $50 for that same plan at 24gb per month with unmetered downloads from midnight-8am

Go Exetel

 

[fatmuscle]

jm123.....

is that a logic gate?

 

[jm1234567890]

jm123.....

is that a logic gate?

nothing wrong with logic gates!