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[KfWang]

i want to do psychology at UNSW, but im not sure if i should go straight into it, or go from a science degree.. also if possible i want to do a double degree : engineering/science
is this too much? like.. what are the hours and workload like?

tnx all

 

[Survivor39]

Everyone does 24 units of credit per semester - normally 4 subjects (assuming you are a full time student). A double degree doesn't mean you do double amount of work. It means you do 2 subjects from science and 2 subjects from engineering. Whereas B science for example does 4 science subjects. People usually get 'tricked' in thinking of you do twice as much if you enrol in a double degree.

You normally have to do 22-24 hours a week in uni.

There is no difference if you do B Psyc or BScience majoring in psyc. Both degree will provide the same understanding to psychology. that is, if you pick the same subjects to B Psyc students.

 

[Ragerunner]

When majoring in Psychology from B Science, even though you try to complete all the subjects for B Psychology, you cannot advance into honours year, nor can you become a registered psychologist.

If that is your goal you need to pick B Psychology.

 

[Survivor39]

I don't think that's true. You can do Honours in B Science if you get credit average...

 

[Ragerunner]

Students should be aware that a Psychology major sequence in the Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Social Science degrees does not satisfy the requirements for an "accredited three-year sequence in Psychology" as described below. To satisfy these requirements, students must complete three courses in addition to the major sequence.

It is not possible to satisfy the requirements for entry to Honours in Psychology within the Bachelor of Arts or Bachelor of Social Science degrees, but students with this goal can apply to transfer to the Bachelor of Psychology at the end of Stage 2. Students with this aim should consult with the School of Psychology for advice about program selection.

To become a member of the professional body, the Australian Psychological Society, and for registration as a psychologist in New South Wales, students first need a University bachelor degree which includes an accredited three year sequence in psychology as approved by the Australian Psychological Society, plus an approved fourth year. Students must also follow this by completing an accredited 5th and 6th year academic program such as one of the Master of Psychology degrees (Clinical, Forensic or Organisational) or a combined Doctor of Philosophy/Master of Psychology degree as offered by this University. An alternative of two years of supervised experience in professional practice may be undertaken for registration as a psychologist in New South Wales.

This applies to the B Science degree as well because B Science is also a 3 year degree, so it is not possible to complete all the subjects that B Psychology requires, thus not being allowed to enter into honours year.

 

[Lexicographer]

Actually, you need to compete with everyone else for the places left over (since all the BPsych people get first preference). If a lot of the non-BPsych people are competing for the places, a bit more than credits may be in order. It's all up to demand if you're not in the specialised degree.

 

[Ragerunner]

As said, you are not able to complete enough Psychology courses anyway. B Psychology is a 4 year program before you can advance into honours years.

B Science or B Arts is a 3 year degree.

 

[Survivor39]

Originally posted by Ragerunner
As said, you are not able to complete enough Psychology courses anyway. B Psychology is a 4 year program before you can advance into honours years.

B Science or B Arts is a 3 year degree.

No no no.....The 4th Year is actually the honours year, like advanced science, the 4th year is actually honour. So in B Science, you get to do honours, so that's 4 year, equalling B Psyc.

 

[Lexicographer]

Originally posted by Survivor39
No no no.....The 4th Year is actually the honours year, like advanced science, the 4th year is actually honour. So in B Science, you get to do honours, so that's 4 year, equalling B Psyc.

Yup, precisely.

 

[KfWang]

oh im not trying to become a regisered psychiatrist anyway, so its all good.
^^ tnx for your help everyone, nice to know what just because im doing a double degree dosent mean i spend two times as much time at Uni

 

[Lexicographer]

Um... you do realise that a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist are different things?

Psychiatry is the medical specialisation that deals with mental health. Psychiatrists are medical doctors.

Psychology is a discipline that addresses the way we think, and how this knowledge and understanding can be used to help people deal with their problems. It is debatably a science and definitely not a medical discipline.

 

[KfWang]

Um... you do realise that a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist are different things?

Psychiatry is the medical specialisation that deals with mental health. Psychiatrists are medical doctors.

Psychology is a discipline that addresses the way we think, and how this knowledge and understanding can be used to help people deal with their problems. It is debatably a science and definitely not a medical discipline.

yupyup of course, im interested in Psychology, as in learning how we think.
thanks for pointing it out though

 

[psych_girl]

help me

Um... you do realise that a Psychologist and a Psychiatrist are different things?

Psychiatry is the medical specialisation that deals with mental health. Psychiatrists are medical doctors.

Psychology is a discipline that addresses the way we think, and how this knowledge and understanding can be used to help people deal with their problems. It is debatably a science and definitely not a medical discipline.

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for my point of view, i think psychiatry is better than psychology cause it can earn lota of money than psychologist. So if i wanna to do medicine course at Usyd when i finish my bachlor degree, do you think i choose any major based on Psychology or other science course at bachlor level? Which is better? If i do science degree major in psychology. can i choose genetics as one of my subject? causue both psychology and genetics are my interets. Do you think if i study genetics as my bacholor degree, then do the medicine master course specialize in psychiatry is better? or only study psychology for both bachlor and master level? and......................for UNSW and Usyd, which uni is better choice? for science degree only, I mean.

 

[Jago]

huh. really now?

i've always thought they were exactly the same...

 

[Survivor39]

To study B Psyc, you can't really do genetics as an interest because it is very strict. If you are interested in genetics, you should just do B Advanced Science or B Sci and you can do a bit of both.
If you want to do med at postgrad level specialised in psychiatry, genetics would help you more i think. really psychology is more of a science from a social science point of view. But it is up to you.

I don't think universities choices will have much bearing on the quality of the degrees. You basically learn almost the same stuffs. It is you, as a student, to grab hold of all the resources available to you. The degree you choose and the mark you gain from doing it are more important than anything. And at the bachelor level, you really can't differentiate which, out of UNSW and USyd, is better. The choice is yours.

 

[psych_girl]

To study B Psyc, you can't really do genetics as an interest because it is very strict. If you are interested in genetics, you should just do B Advanced Science or B Sci and you can do a bit of both.
If you want to do med at postgrad level specialised in psychiatry, genetics would help you more i think. really psychology is more of a science from a social science point of view. But it is up to you.

I don't think universities choices will have much bearing on the quality of the degrees. You basically learn almost the same stuffs. It is you, as a student, to grab hold of all the resources available to you. The degree you choose and the mark you gain from doing it are more important than anything. And at the bachelor level, you really can't differentiate which, out of UNSW and USyd, is better. The choice is yours.

Thanks very much for your help, i am still thinking!!!!

 

[Lord Ac]

if you do b psych in first yr you get many preferences for other electives, depending on what you choose you can have mimumum hours of 14 (me ) or max around 22

Ac

 

[Survivor39]

if you do b psych in first yr you get many preferences for other electives, depending on what you choose you can have mimumum hours of 14 (me ) or max around 22

Ac

But you can't choose Genetics at first year level. And plus most first year electives are crap anyway.

 

[psych_girl]

here we go

We have uni advice today. they said we cant regard psychology as a job in our whole life, cause as long as you become psychologist for a long time, I mean treat some patient for more than 3 or 4 years, yourself will become those kinds of ppl. So teacher suggest me that i should do the double majors. I cant do the B psychology cuz it doesn't have much room allow you to change. So do you all want to regard psychologist as your whole life's career?

Plus: If I study Bachlor of sciene (general science, i mean), can i do both psychology and genetics?

 

[Survivor39]

We have uni advice today. they said we cant regard psychology as a job in our whole life, cause as long as you become psychologist for a long time, I mean treat some patient for more than 3 or 4 years, yourself will become those kinds of ppl. So teacher suggest me that i should do the double majors. I cant do the B psychology cuz it doesn't have much room allow you to change. So do you all want to regard psychologist as your whole life's career?

Plus: If I study Bachlor of sciene (general science, i mean), can i do both psychology and genetics?

yes you can. Do B Science (3 years) and pick half psyc subjects and half genetic subjects. It is the ONLY way to major in both, unless you want to do 2 degrees, B Psyc and then B Science (6 years).