which unverity to pick (1 Viewer)

[kofmaster]

i have been told that the UAI cut-off marks are useless because, say if you want to do civil engineering at UNSW even though the cut-off is 78 only 10 people gain admission and usually is the people who recieve 90s.

is this true!

 

[vacant mind]

yes!

 

[asdf]

If ure uai is higher than that years cut off, then u should be able to make it...

 

[cyrax83]

isnt the cutoff the lowerst uai of a person who made it into that course

 

[hipsta_jess]

Originally posted by cyrax83
isnt the cutoff the lowerst uai of a person who made it into that course

yep.

 

[RCMasterAA]

While I doubt they only let 10 people do civil engineering, yes it is true that lower uai cutoffs mean jack all.
UNSW has one of the largest engineering faculties in Australia so it would stand to reason that they can let more people in, hence the lower uai cutoffs for the last few years.
Don't forget to make sure any ill-informed parents know this cause otherwise they'll be on your case about you doing a lower uai cutoff subject, and why you didn't do medicine.

Stupid parents...

 

[santaslayer]

Originally posted by kofmaster
i have been told that the UAI cut-off marks are useless because, say if you want to do civil engineering at UNSW even though the cut-off is 78 only 10 people gain admission and usually is the people who recieve 90s.

is this true!

i doubt that only 10 people do civil engineering, maybe if u added an extra zero at the end of the '10'?
and no, the uai cutoff means that the last person who waas admitted to the degree got THAT uai, so usually, if you are over the cutoff, then you are in!

 

[jm1234567890]

UOW also has a very good engineering faculty

 

[= Jennifer =]

Originally posted by cyrax83
isnt the cutoff the lowerst uai of a person who made it into that course

Originally posted by hipsta_jess
yep.

thanks for that i didn't know that one

 

[underthesun]

in response to the original question : UNSW!

 

[santaslayer]

Originally posted by jm1234567890
UOW also has a very good engineering faculty

:uhhuh:

except i would replace the 'very good' with 'DA BEST!!!!!!!!!'

 

[ohne]

UAI cutoffs are not useless, they imply the lowest UAI which gained entry to the course. Obviously if a course has a cutoff of 78 it is possible that 100 people in the course got a UAI of over 99 and one person got 78 which detirmines the cutoff. But cutoffs do generally indicate the quality of candidates who gained entry to a particular course.

 

[McLake]

Originally posted by ohne
UAI cutoffs are not useless, they imply the lowest UAI which gained entry to the course. Obviously if a course has a cutoff of 78 it is possible that 100 people in the course got a UAI of over 99 and one person got 78 which detirmines the cutoff. But cutoffs do generally indicate the quality of candidates who gained entry to a particular course.

Taken from UNSW "SENG" website (www.cse.unsw.edu.au/seng):

Why is the UAI important?

The UAI clearly is not necessarily a good indicator of whether a student will be a good Software Engineer, or a good doctor, but it is a reasonably good measure of general academic ability.

A high UAI for a program with a significant number of students is an indicator of the quality of your fellow students. Highly capable, inquisitive fellow students will provide challenges for you, and help to raise the level of courses.

But, the UAI cutoff can be confusing and misleading

The UAI cutoff is not meaningful without knowing the number of students that were admitted above that UAI.

A program cutoff of 99 could be achieved by taking only 1 or 2 students.

When enquiring about the UAI cutoff of a program, always ask how many students were taken above that UAI.

Consider the following 2003 cutoffs:

University | cutoff
UTS | 93.35
Sydney | 94.9
UNSW | 91.7

Doesn't look too good for UNSW does it?

But now consider this:

the median UAI for SE students at UNSW was 96.1
above that median UAI UNSW took 46 students
this was only 2 less than the total number of students taken by both UTS and Sydney combined!

So UNSW took as many students as the total of Sydney and UTS at a higher UAI than either of them.

Puts a different complexion on the above table, doesn't it!

Beware!

 

[Calculon]

To threadstarter: Maybe if you posted in the general uni forum you would get a larger variety of viewpoints on the issue, as opposed to UNSW people whoa re going to say (surprise surprise) UNSW. Not making any judgements onthe quality of UNSW engineering faculty, just saying you may get a less bias P.O.V. in uni general

 

[santaslayer]

yea i agree....but it looks like that the threadstarter hasnt loged back on since