World Youth Day (2 Viewers)

[emytaylor164]

yeah, BUT being a biblical literalist is unchristian

how so?

 

[Captain Gh3y]

how so?

1. The Bible was written by people
2. It wasn't written until several decades after Christ, and the official version (which books were canon or not) wasn't settled until several centuries after Christ
3. It makes no sense if you read it 100% literally in modern English without the historical context
4. evangelical Biblical literalists ignore all the tradition (unlike Catholics or Orthodox) that was just as much a part of Christianity as the Bible
oh and
5. Serious Biblical scholars who do know about the history of the books and the times they were written in don't seem to think they mean the same things as the fundies seem to think they mean... wonder who's right?

 

[emytaylor164]

1. The Bible was written by people

the people who were eye witnesses (well in the gospels anyway) other then that is still the word of God

2. It wasn't written until several decades after Christ, and the official version (which books were canon or not) wasn't settled until several centuries after Christ

not the case at all

3. It makes no sense if you read it 100% literally in modern English without the historical context

i disagree although knowing when it was written can help to understand it and how it applies today, but you can still get the main point

4. evangelical Biblical literalists ignore all the tradition (unlike Catholics or Orthodox) that was just as much a part of Christianity as the Bible

only the unbiblical ones, like i know my church has communion e.t.c.

oh and
5. Serious Biblical scholars who do know about the history of the books and the times they were written in don't seem to think they mean the same things as the fundies seem to think they mean... wonder who's right?

i disagree and what is wrong with your own interpretation of the bible as long is it actually biblical and you can are getting the big picture, we constantly look at the history of the books to assist in understanding which does involve looking to biblical scholars

 

[CharlieB]

not the case at all

No, Captain Ghey is actually correct. (refer to pwar's post in the thread which got closed last night).

Anyway, in the third third and finally the fourth century the Church Council began to issue decisions on what constituted the canon of the Scriptures (and discarded those which weren't aligned with the Word of God ie - those which weren't canonical). The final, definitive and absolute list was not made until the 16th century.

 

[emytaylor164]

No, Captain Ghey is actually correct. (refer to pwar's post in the thread which got closed last night).

Anyway, in the third third and finally the fourth century the Church Council began to issue decisions on what constituted the canon of the Scriptures (and discarded those which weren't aligned with the Word of God ie - those which weren't canonical). The final, definitive and absolute list was not made until the 16th century.

i meant that it was written decades after the death of christ sorry

 

[.:AmBeR.SmItH:.]

ooome and my fanily were gonna host some of the people whom come here from round the globe... were not religous or anythng just thought it would be nice ... but dad said no said it would be wierd for the strangers to be at our house, as they would have to be on fold out beds, and dad said that, the fold out beds wernt good enuf
sooo... yer tats my woffle

 

[CharlieB]

ooome and my fanily were gonna host some of the people whom come here from round the globe... were not religous or anythng just thought it would be nice ... but dad said no said it would be wierd for the strangers to be at our house, as they would have to be on fold out beds, and dad said that, the fold out beds wernt good enuf
sooo... yer tats my woffle

fold out beds are great!

I have four people who are staying at my place and they are going to be sleeping on my living room floor.

As long as they have roof over their heads and somewhere warm to sleep they will be fine.

 

[Reyn Reyn]

heys, i'm going to wyd.
you don't have to pay to go to the final mass,
but the people who have paid and registered get first priority.

 

[CharlieB]

heys, i'm going to wyd.
you don't have to pay to go to the final mass,
but the people who have paid and registered get first priority.

yep! It's all cleared up on the wyd website now.

lol i just found this

The UNSW Aheist Society is hosting an epic WCYD raid on the 17th of July, 2008. It will be the Society’s response to an event that is costing NSW millions of dollars.


The Society has a few plans for the event, but needs attendees of the raid to help out with the following;

1. Obtaining 1000-2000 condoms, National Council of Women Contraception Pamplets, and Abortion Advice Booklets to hand out to Catholics at the entrance to the racecourse;
2. Covering the city with satirical media, and infiltrating the media with our words of protest; and
3. Holding an Alternative 'World Heathen Day' event on the day after our raid to celebrate.

The Society is looking for a few hundred helpers for this and are asking you to invite anyone and everyone you can. They’ll set up an executive and planning teams in the next few weeks. Many meetings will be held at UNSW and USyd.

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also their condom supplier just dropped out haha

 

[emytaylor164]

lol we know there will be a baby boom in 10 months

 

[*TRUE*]

yep! It's all cleared up on the wyd website now.

lol i just found this



also their condom supplier just dropped out haha

How pathetic....

 

[inasero]

goddamnit the evangelicals "catholics aren't christians" thing pisses me off

THEY'RE THE REAL CHRISTIANS YOU LUNATICS

then what of the Great Schism?

 

[JaredR]

also one of the ones furthest from the bible,


btw the reason i do not support wyd is cos of plenary indulgences been offered (search that on the wyd site) completely unbiblical

Well according to you I'm going to hell so I take what you have to say with a grain of salt. Be off on your merry preaching ways, try and save a few more souls! At least the Catholics don't have to market for members.

 

[JaredR]

ooome and my fanily were gonna host some of the people whom come here from round the globe... were not religous or anythng just thought it would be nice ... but dad said no said it would be wierd for the strangers to be at our house, as they would have to be on fold out beds, and dad said that, the fold out beds wernt good enuf
sooo... yer tats my woffle

Catholic classrooms are going to be filled with pilgrims sleeping on the floors and in halls. I know of one instance where a hall (wooden floored, no air conditioning) will be filled with pilgrims. Now that's penance!

 

[xeuyrawp]

then what of the Great Schism?

...What about it? :-/

 

[Captain Gh3y]

i meant that it was written decades after the death of christ sorry

I don't think anyone would dispute the Gospels were second or third hand accounts written around 60-110AD

 

[emytaylor164]

The oldest ones found were written almost straight after christs death.
The newer ones, are almost identical to the old ones other then spelling mistakes

 

[inasero]

I don't think anyone would dispute the Gospels were second or third hand accounts written around 60-110AD

Wrong. Of the synoptic gospels, Matthew and John were eponymously named after two of Jesus' original disciples. The Gospels of Mark and Luke were written around 60AD, not long after Jesus was crucified and resurrected.

 

[inasero]

...What about it? :-/

Well in response to

goddamnit the evangelicals "catholics aren't christians" thing pisses me off

THEY'RE THE REAL CHRISTIANS YOU LUNATICS

Obviously the orthodox churches had a point of disagreement to have made the decision to split off from the supposed "real christians". I don't know what point he's trying to make.

 

[inasero]

He's wrong...but you agree?
:S

I never agreed. I simply brought up the dates as a response to the implication that the gospels were introduced long after Jesus' life on Earth, which is clearly not the case.