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as if the underground torrenting community will seed such educative software :p

im serious.. this is like the 1st time if ever that i can't find a piece of software :eek:

or is it the only ppl who buys them are so special that they dont seed
 

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lol !! i think its riduculous !!!!
 

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lol !! i think its riduculous !!!!
 

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Has anyone tried it yet? Sometimes you can't tell anything unless you try it since I thought people have at least put their brain into the business. I am not advertising for that company since I am a real maths tutor, but it would be great for me just to have a look how the system works.
 

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xuvu6520 said:
Has anyone tried it yet? Sometimes you can't tell anything unless you try it since I thought people have at least put their brain into the business. I am not advertising for that company since I am a real maths tutor, but it would be great for me just to have a look how the system works.
Well I blitz the topics that are taught at school ONLY if taught by the Mathemagic Computer Tutor, but not for the topics not taught by the program ....
 

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i've used the program. its ok, and a good thing about it is theres no BOB. basically they'll give u a set of questions and if u get an answer wrong, it pretty much goes through step by step and teaches u the right way.

i wouldnt use it to study for the exams though, simply because the questions arent set out like hsc style. but its good for reinforcing things u've learnt in class.
 

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My firm opinion is that using these programs are no better than traditional textbooks because the interaction is limited... so it is basically just like a talking textbook...

Also had a look at the maths power website, it gives the same vibes as self help books. here are some examples:

"It is the finest maths program available today and it has been featured on A Current Affair and Today Tonight because of its quality, its price and the excellent results students are achieving." (LOL)

" * Back to the Future Education is an Australian Government Endorsed Supplier." (who cares... have a look at http://www.esa.finance.gov.au/ It hardly has anything to do with quality and certainly nothing to do with education)

customer testimonials.. (we all know how dubious these usually are..)
 

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People should consult their teachers at school
 

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Couldn't help but reading all these threads about tutoring, from the computer-based programs to one-on-one tutors. Pretty interesting...And I know this is a student site (sorry guys) but stay with me...

I am a trained primary and secondary teacher. I've taught in America, the UK and here is Australia. I've seen a lot of kids struggle with maths. The truth of that matter is that there is not one method of tutoring that will work for everyone. I keep reading all these postings about how awful this thing is or how bad that thing is, but have most of you actually experienced what you are bagging?

A lot of kids need tutoring these days because the schools can't provide them with the needed help. Even the best teachers struggle to make sure that no students are falling through the cracks. Think about it, 1 teacher to 30 students! As a teacher, I've recommended different forms of tutoring to heaps of students and their parents. I've worked after school with some children, I've recommened private tutors, I've suggested looking at computer-based programs. It depends on what the student needs. For students who are really struggling, yes, I suggest they get something like the Mathemagic Computer Tutor because it will cover everything that the kids have missed in the past. It's very comprehensive, it follows the outline of the curriculum, the kids have access to support, and they can use it 24/7. It does come with a hefty price tag, but what price does one put on a child's education? And it covers all the children in the family until the end of year 12. Value for money, it is pretty good because it's there on a log-term basis. This is a good option for parents who really want to be involved in what their kids are doing.

For students who are doing well, I feel a private tutor is great. It keeps the kids up to speed and makes sure that they don't slip. Sometimes it's good for kids to have an adult there to support them, as long as they can cope with the work without that support there all the time.

Learning centres like Kip McGrath can work for kids as well. It boils down to what works for each family. For working families with big time constraints, in home options are great. Kids can do the work at home and the parents can be involved. Having one-on-one tutoring can boost the kids' confidence.

The reality of it is that most, not all, but most parents are not proactive about getting help for their kids by their own volition. Yes, parents want to help their kids and they consider various options, but very few actually DO anything. This isn't to say that there aren't parents out there who rush to get help, so please don't jump down my throat, but in my experience parents don't act unless something is suggested to them. And if they don't do it right then, then they usually won' do it at all until it's too late.

It comes down to knowing what your options are all about before you trash something. Talk to people who've tried a certain tutoring method. Whether or not it worked for them, does not mean that it wil or won't work for someone else.

Thanks guys. (Sorry this was so long!)
 

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TeachingLife said:
Couldn't help but reading all these threads about tutoring, from the computer-based programs to one-on-one tutors. Pretty interesting...And I know this is a student site (sorry guys) but stay with me...

I am a trained primary and secondary teacher. I've taught in America, the UK and here is Australia. I've seen a lot of kids struggle with maths. The truth of that matter is that there is not one method of tutoring that will work for everyone. I keep reading all these postings about how awful this thing is or how bad that thing is, but have most of you actually experienced what you are bagging?

A lot of kids need tutoring these days because the schools can't provide them with the needed help. Even the best teachers struggle to make sure that no students are falling through the cracks. Think about it, 1 teacher to 30 students! As a teacher, I've recommended different forms of tutoring to heaps of students and their parents. I've worked after school with some children, I've recommened private tutors, I've suggested looking at computer-based programs. It depends on what the student needs. For students who are really struggling, yes, I suggest they get something like the Mathemagic Computer Tutor because it will cover everything that the kids have missed in the past. It's very comprehensive, it follows the outline of the curriculum, the kids have access to support, and they can use it 24/7. It does come with a hefty price tag, but what price does one put on a child's education? And it covers all the children in the family until the end of year 12. Value for money, it is pretty good because it's there on a log-term basis. This is a good option for parents who really want to be involved in what their kids are doing.

For students who are doing well, I feel a private tutor is great. It keeps the kids up to speed and makes sure that they don't slip. Sometimes it's good for kids to have an adult there to support them, as long as they can cope with the work without that support there all the time.

Learning centres like Kip McGrath can work for kids as well. It boils down to what works for each family. For working families with big time constraints, in home options are great. Kids can do the work at home and the parents can be involved. Having one-on-one tutoring can boost the kids' confidence.

The reality of it is that most, not all, but most parents are not proactive about getting help for their kids by their own volition. Yes, parents want to help their kids and they consider various options, but very few actually DO anything. This isn't to say that there aren't parents out there who rush to get help, so please don't jump down my throat, but in my experience parents don't act unless something is suggested to them. And if they don't do it right then, then they usually won' do it at all until it's too late.

It comes down to knowing what your options are all about before you trash something. Talk to people who've tried a certain tutoring method. Whether or not it worked for them, does not mean that it wil or won't work for someone else.

Thanks guys. (Sorry this was so long!)

Your profile states that you finished highschool in 1998, so assuming that you took 4 years to get your qualifications (would be pretty reasonable, and perhaps longer given that you are trained to teach both primary and secondary school), then you've only taught from 2003 to 2006.. that makes it 3.5 years.... and according to you it's spread across US, Australia and UK... that makes it on average 1 year per place.... seems like you have a very exciting life. And 3 years of experience isn't much anyway.


Again a post by someone who went through all the trouble to register just to post this post..ZZZ


sigh... .. ever wonder why people hate businesses and ads
 
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tamaranadine said:
I'll agree with Affinity. I hate people who come on here to simply promote their product.
And I do not see the point of the program. I thought that by getting theis program you would be saving money from what you would usually spend on tutors. I think the price is ridiculous, also, would you have to continually keep updating the software to stay up to date?
check out some live tutors at
www.mastercoaching.com.au
Oh the irony =(
 

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Re: MATHSPOWER vs AIM Using Mathemagic Name

For someone to claim so strongly about Mathspower being better and so much cheaper and better than AIM, u make a big claim. And u don't give other methods of learning other than mathspower a fair go.
1. If it is so much cheaper and better, How Does the Company Support Itself?
Continuous software research and development in a specialised field costs millions of dollars. Take autocad for example, it's specifically for architecture and engineering and costs from $500-20,000 depending on what u want. Mathspower is a business like any other and it has to make a large profit to offset the money it spends otherwise it's going to go bankrupt and there goes ur good cheap program and phone tutors.

2. What are the major cut backs?
I can see how AIM and autocad can support itself, how does urs? Are there less poorer quality tutors, less research and development? And even if they are Phd graduates they got to be trained to explain to little kids. Do u even know what is the exact major cut back? Because quite frankly no one with a masters or doctorate degree wants to become a teacher and only earn a salary of 50,000-100,000 per year when u may have spent years and alot of money getting ur degree. They go into industries and can earn close to half a mil per year. Also the program must undergo research and development to keep it upto date with the circulum and upto date with technology like windows vista.

3. U can't say one is better than the other unless u do a thorough research of all methods. And each child is different and may learn better using one method compared to another b/c they like it more and find it more fun.
 

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lol they came to my house and tested me and and my sister..then my parents disagreed..lol they are quite annoying
 

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pLuvia said:
man that mathematic computer tutor sux shit.. it fucing costs.. $4000 for senior cd and $3000 for junior cd so fucing bs...
Me and my brother got Primary & Secondary Maths and English with a phone tutor free of charge for just $5995.

jm1234567890 said:
not really....

if you get tutoring for 1 year, say... $50 an hour for 1 hour a week, that is about $2500/year.

with this software you get a phone tutor and software to help you 24/7. I think that is ok value.
Not to mention you can use the software indefinitely, as long as your computer isn't affected by viruses, and you have the motivation to do it.

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Nah, it doesnt do 3u/4u maths..stops at 2u.
And as jm said, 3u+ cant be taught by a computer.
True, although it doesn't teach the whole Extension 1 course (like Mathematical Induction or Binomial theorem for example) but it does teach you Polynomials & Circle Geometry and that's it.

nick1048 said:
crap program I can do better... VB all the way!
The interface is boring, if it looked more like Microsoft Office 2007 it would be more worthwhile learning.

INXS said:
So has anybody actually tried it out? Is it really shit or what?
Well it's just only OK, it's the phone support and the program's ability to detect errors when you order it to before confirming your final answer that helps, otherwise, bleurgh ...
 

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Yes I have

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You all seem to have a strong opinion against the program, but have any of you used it? You never know, it could be really useful.. :rolleyes: (so the advertisement says :p)

Any success stories from anyone who has used it?
I have it, my Parents thought it would be a big improvement to my intelligence, oh how they were wrong. Very, very wrong, Last year I was about 4rd smartest In my class and like 2nd In maths, this year (before I was using it) I was 1st in Maths and 2 Smartest, now after using it for say 5 month, I'm 14th i maths and 8th in my class. It's horrible and they are still leaching our money and not letting us cancel the contract. They say it's a product That I bought and the only way to cancel it is do 4 times a week 15 minutes a day for 12 months and I have to fail maths. If they are so certain the user will be smarter, why can't they give a honest refund? $5000 they say, well actually it's more like $8000. I'd be damned if I want to ever use it.
 
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Well I can understand why you may find it a waste of money, as in it's not helping you whatsoever. But I really don't see how it could actually drag your marks down. Unless you are actually taking your precious time off previous study and using the program.

The refund policy is really dodgy though... I guess they designed the program for people who were failing in the first place.
 

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stupid program for stupid people. enough said.

i am up for a nice little flame war, lets get this party started
 

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