Reds are on the Rise? (2 Viewers)

[SylviaB]

Pssh.

No.

 

[Zeitgeist308]

Pssh.

No.

Your contribution to this thread is highly valued.

 

[Silver Persian]

I was trolling Zeitgeist. No need to undermine my shallow and uninformed parody of Marxism

 

[Will Shakespear]

Your contribution to this thread is highly valued.

equally useful as Marxist theory in today's world

but it wins out due to being more succinct

 

[Zeitgeist308]

I was trolling Zeitgeist. No need to undermine my shallow and uninformed parody of Marxism

Of course, I know this. Either way I think my post is a perfectly legitimate reply to an oft made argument made by many "marxists".

equally useful as Marxist theory in today's world

but it wins out due to being more succinct

Well I think this proves you're not completely good for nothing - at least you can crack a bloody good one liner.

 

[Lukybear]

China will dominate the world!!!

 

[Graney]

China will dominate the world!!!

All thanks to abandoning communism for economic liberalism!!!

 

[Silver Persian]

You will be the first against the wall following the glorious imposition of the proletarian dictatorship.

 

[banco55]

If anything I expect a surge in the west of right wing populism.

 

[Graney]

I heard HEMP (help end marijuana prohibition) party Australia is gaining support and intend to run for state and federal government soon.....

 

[Will Shakespear]

Of course, I know this. Either way I think my post is a perfectly legitimate reply to an oft made argument made by many "marxists".



Well I think this proves you're not completely good for nothing - at least you can crack a bloody good one liner.

no but seriously

marx failed to predict that the working classes like plasma tvs better than freedom

it's all over

 

[Graney]

The working classes are dumb.

Orwell was right.

 

[steeez]

I heard HEMP (help end marijuana prohibition) party Australia is gaining support and intend to run for state and federal government soon.....

Now thats one party i'd like to see in power!

Labor have recently been acting as though they were all stoned lately anyway

 

[Zeitgeist308]

no but seriously

marx failed to predict that the working classes like plasma tvs better than freedom

it's all over

Marx was not a prophet, his "predictions" are of little importance. What is important in Marx is his method - historical materialism, understanding the course of history, the critique of alienation and the social effects of capitalism, the critique of classical political economy and the laws and workings of the capitalist mode of production and so on.

The working classes are dumb.

Orwell was right.

This is not only a generalisation (an incorrect one at that), but is a completely meaningless statement.

Besides, Orwell was a petit-bourgeois socialist suffering from a severe case of middle class guilt.

 

[Will Shakespear]

Marx was not a prophet, his "predictions" are of little importance. What is important in Marx is his method - historical materialism, understanding the course of history, the critique of alienation and the social effects of capitalism, the critique of classical political economy and the laws and workings of the capitalist mode of production and so on.

when he wrote, the workers were still throwing their shit in the streets and using leeches to cure disease

you don't think it matters?

 

[Crestwood's_G]

I saw a glimpse of ten news this arvo and it said that the Communist party of Australia is gaining support and intend to run for state and federal government soon..... Is this just channel ten spreading fear or does anyone know something to confirm this?

i doubt it...

communism doesn't work...but neither does capitalism...there will never be a perfect political system

 

[flaganarchy]

Rank-N-File Unionism, Strikes, International Rebellion...... I think its a long way off... but the economic situation does present a front for it.

 

[Graney]

This is not only a generalisation (an incorrect one at that), but is a completely meaningless statement.

The meaning is, the workers love their slavery and are too stupid to realize there's a way out.

 

[Zeitgeist308]

when he wrote, the workers were still throwing their shit in the streets and using leeches to cure disease

Cite or STFU.

you don't think it matters?

What I think matters is his method. If Marx made incorrect predictions or conclusions this not important, what is import is the validity and utility of his method.

communism doesn't work...but neither does capitalism...there will never be a perfect political system

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Rank-N-File Unionism, Strikes, International Rebellion...... I think its a long way off... but the economic situation does present a front for it

Indeed, we are seeing a string upsurge in the class struggle internationally. However, I would draw contention to your mention of the unions. In our opinion (here I do not speak for the myriad of social-democrat, trotskyist, stalinist, leftists et al) unions are not organis of the working class. The current upsurge in the global class struggle has rather been typified by the spread of anti-union strikes, so-called 'wildcat' strikes against and without consent of the unions, bodies which the working class are comming realise in this period as state instruments for the inforcement of austerity measures upon the class, maintaining stability and legality and protecting the fundamental interests of national capital.

The meaning is, the workers love their slavery and are too stupid to realize there's a way out.

I couldn't agree - the global upsurge in the class struggle is striking proof of this thesis.

Seriously, when people say this kind of shit I take it as an insult of the highest kind - to put it politely - go fuck yourself.

 

[badquinton304]

i doubt it...

communism doesn't work...but neither does capitalism...there will never be a perfect political system

Complete Rationalism?