Gay people should not be allowed to access IVF (2 Viewers)

[Iron]

It's just an insult to the medical profession, who are there to help people in genuine need, rather than frivilous want.

If they were so desperate to have a child, as you say, they would renounce their burning lusts for one another and make an honest woman out of some poor lonely girl. They shouldnt expect doctors, who have a serious and even sacred role in society, to pick up the edit:ethical tab for their selfish fancies

 

[Tangent]

My goodness, you are wanting me to hit the sack with one of my friends....

 

[Iron]

Id rather you didnt, pls. Spare the world your bad genes boi

 

[Tangent]

Id rather you didnt, pls. Spare the world your bad genes boi

And I'd rather adopt. BUT for some reason that isn't an option either.

IVF isnt one of my top preferences, because i dont want to use another person like that.

 

[Iron]

Spare us, pls.

 

[Tangent]

I'm not asking you or anyone to believe me. However, that is what i believe

 

[SnowFox]

I hate religion for these reasons.

Egotistical fiction readers who govern how the rest of the world lives.

 

[kami]

Everytime you guys play the povo teen mum card, a piece of me dies

Sorry! I didn't realise when I said it how it might connect since I don't really see you fitting into the typical conventions surrounding the situation.

You do know what I mean though, there's lots of people who fall pregnant 'naturally' without intending to have a child or being remotely capable of caring for it afterward. It just seems that, regardless of orientation, if someone is making a concerted effort to create a child and is backing it at a non-insubstantial cost to themselves then it's probably going to be a more secure and loving situation.

 

[cassieagill]

i think gays should have the same rights as everyone else

 

[Yasser Arafat]

I was being a dick, I don't really care. 99% of teenage mothers do fit that description nicely.

But I agree. I see no reason why a couple, regardless of orientation, should be denied being able to have a child purely because they do not fit the conventional 'nuclear family'. If you have a loving homosexual couple willing to make the sacrifice to raise a child, it fills me with more hope than the average bogan couple who have a kid coz they 'dun gon gets sum moniez' for it.

 

[Iron]

Na, the real sacrifice would be suppressing their sexuality. Evidently, they view their sexual expression as more important than a child, so demand science to cross unnatural, unethical boundaries so that they can maintain their perversions and cripple the healthy upbringing of some child that their highly material sub-culture view as something of a paris hilton puppy hi kami

 

[kami]

Na, the real sacrifice would be suppressing their sexuality. Evidently, they view their sexual expression as more important than a child, so demand science to cross unnatural, unethical boundaries so that they can maintain their perversions and cripple the healthy upbringing of some child that their highly material sub-culture view as something of a paris hilton puppy hi kami

sup alex, my bride

Are you making the assertion that same sex couples are universally incapable of wishing to nurture a child beyond the notion of accessorising?

 

[SnowFox]

The want to bring up a child is natural, as with any species.

 

[Yasser Arafat]

Na, the real sacrifice would be suppressing their sexuality. Evidently, they view their sexual expression as more important than a child, so demand science to cross unnatural, unethical boundaries so that they can maintain their perversions and cripple the healthy upbringing of some child that their highly material sub-culture view as something of a paris hilton puppy hi kami

There is nothing to suggest, other than your own idiocy, that homosexual couples persevere to create families and have children, purely because it's in vogue. It's despicable to infer that to homosexuals, children are pets, and that a prerequisite to being a good parent is to be in a heterosexual relationship.

Given the number of children taken by DOCS and the number of children in less than ideal circumstances, from heterosexual couples, doesn't your argument seem to be based on fallacy?

 

[Garygaz]

The want to bring up a child is natural, as with any species.

except for the fact that two male apes can't have sex and make a baby.

 

[Iron]

sup alex, my bride

Are you making the assertion that same sex couples are universally incapable of wishing to nurture a child beyond the notion of accessorising?

Yes.

Your sub-culture is necessarily materialistic, because yours is a union closed to natural life. All you can hope for is a 'mail-order baby', which, far from bringing two highly corrupted souls closer together, would merely expose the cracks more quickly and ruin the life of the child. So go and tart up your aging flesh and try to attract as many partners as you can; the time will come when you realise the futility of your quest for meaning through sex.
Then you will destroy yourself.

 

[SnowFox]

except for the fact that two male apes can't have sex and make a baby.

No access to IVF Treatment.

 

[Iron]

Given the number of children taken by DOCS and the number of children in less than ideal circumstances, from heterosexual couples, doesn't your argument seem to be based on fallacy?

Why, not at all! Homosexuals are just one of many groups in society who are hopelessly wrong. I merely single them out because they stand out in society, their 'fight' is still fairly new, and it's a slightly more pleasant topic than aborrr... the a-bomb

 

[Garygaz]

What about the point that homophobia exists strongly in the community, and has been that way for a very long time. It ain't going to be great for the kid at school, inevitably they will cop a lot of crap for it.

 

[Yasser Arafat]

What about the point that homophobia exists strongly in the community, and has been that way for a very long time. It ain't going to be great for the kid at school, inevitably they will cop a lot of crap for it.

Intolerance will exist regardless of whether people have a homosexual couple bringing them up, or heterosexuals.

It will exist regardless, as will bullying. To suggest that homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to raise kids "in case they cop crap for it" is ridiculous.