you totally missed the point, ofcourse homosexuality is a natural occurenceHomosexuality is a natural occurrence, not a adaptation you dick.
i was saying that what kids do at school is a reflection of what they are taught at home
you totally missed the point, ofcourse homosexuality is a natural occurenceHomosexuality is a natural occurrence, not a adaptation you dick.
Mindless post-modernism and dogmatic Catholocism are not your only two options dear. Come and join me in the realm of Enlightenend modernism!Yeah, well,
youre all too stupid and gutless to stand for anything anyway. Accept everything, you say, there's no such thing as good and evil, civilization and barbarism, correct and incorrect; it's all a big haze that we should allow ourselves the freedom to drift in, dude. This will fix everything! You wanna kill me? Go ahead, that's your right, bro
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Tools.
In some ancient communities male love was considered a good thing
Why do people think by denying other people their rights; as HUMANS (and u cannot under any circumstances think that they aren't), to children will fix something or change something? People who legitametly should have children but because they aren't the 'normal' they are refused.
I'm sorry for picking on you Jemelet, but your post in particular jumped out at me.Iron, you're a numb-nut; shut up. Compare the amount of 'Normal' couple divorces against those normal couples with affairs. Compare that with the same sex couples who divorce and have affairs? I suppose next you will be having squads that barge into rooms of homosexual couples and have them arrested for being "Unnatural"?
Jemlet may be a numb nut but you're kind of misrepresenting some things.2) There is no fundamental human right to be butt-buddies. People, particularly on the left love to make up human rights when its convenient for them. Article 16 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights does guarantee the right to marriage, but does allow for limitation based upon sex. Article 16 also guarantees people the right to enter into a marriage AND found a family i.e. it guarantees people the right to found a family within a married relationship. Additionally, with the removal of IVF treatment gay people and single women would still be able to found a family, they would just have to do it through more traditional methods, which is appropriate in a health system where resources are limited and should be rationed on a basis of need and not want.
Why should they be placed behind sterile heterosexual couples? Their aspiration for children is similarly a want, not a need, as children are not a requirement in this society.Re: The topic. I believe health care services should be rationed on a basis of need, not want. I don't believe that some elective procedures, such as IVF treatment for homosexuals and single women should be subject to government support. I also feel that people wanting to undertake such procedures should be placed in a queue behind people who are unable to conceive naturally.
Nope.surprisingly, i am on the fence with this one. Usually i would err on the side of being liberal, but for some strange reason Irons arguments make sense to me.
I am not particularly pro IVF for anybody, but if you have to give it to someone that otherwise wouldnt be having kids, then select based on what type of parents they are going to be. If its true that kids with a mum AND a dad turn out better, then maybe same sex parents shouldnt be given IVF. Just like poor parents shouldnt be. On the other side of things, it doesnt much affect me if some gays want to have kids, and if it makes them happier and they are going to be good parents [ and not treat their kids like little accessories that some1 brought up lol] then maybe allowing them that isnt such a bad thing.
In my mind, the only major thing that makes me care if my kids are going to be straight or not is that i want grandkids, if they were allowed kids by IVF then the only things i will need to overcome are some minor prejudice.
SP, the college intellectual who maintained a middle course of culture between the flamboyant 'aesthetes' and the proletarian scholars who scrambled fiercely for facts...Mindless post-modernism and dogmatic Catholocism are not your only two options dear. Come and join me in the realm of Enlightenend modernism!
Haha, I was starting to wonder when someone was going to say that.I'm not entirely comfortable with IVF for any person or couple.
Yeah but you also believe there's some magic man out there who listens to your prayers.I'm not entirely comfortable with IVF for any person or couple.
Are you a dolt? Although it is possible for a homosexual male to conceive a child through natural means with female, and also a lesbian female to conceive with a male, it is an invasion of the boundaries of the friendship, and it would be uncomfortable for both parties. And there isnt a 100% chance of conceiving, so each could have to be put through sexual intercourse several times.I also think that homosexuals should look for other options, such as (in the case of two males) finding a female friend who'd be willing to have the child with them naturally or (in the case of two females) a male friend.... or there's always lots of kids to adopt"
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I know where you are coming from, though i dont think there is a necessity of growing up with a mother and a father- as you have stated, lots of people only grow up with one parent anyway.Just on the notion of the child, I was wondering ppl's views in respect to the necessity of growing up with a mother & a father?
I know this is a common argument, I'm particularly undecided on it. Obviously, many children of heterocouples grow up with only a single parent in their life; but that doesn't take away the fact that they do have a parent of each sex. It is obviously an interesting area of discussion.
What about the 13 yr old girl who just got her periods for the first time and isn't sure which dad to talk to?