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lol?

His negligent appeasement of almost every rogue state will lead America to many more conflicts than they are already in by the time he is finished as President.
Look, calling out countries like Iran and Venezuela doesn't work because they always seize on some event many years ago and call the U.S. hypocritical, allowing their state media to spin the stories - it's a vicious cycle. Just because Mr. Obama doesn't rail on about these states, their appalling human rights rights records and government corruption, etc., doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan. Internationally, Obama is riding on a wave of good will and belligerence is not a good look. It sounds like faulty logic but it's not as faulty as saying Obama's policy is one of appeasement. I believe he is more Machievellian than past presidents in that he refuses to be caught in the 'layman' trap of "speaking from the heart". One speech in Cairo, one Nowruz message, brought Iran to its knees, though I still fail to understand why Obama didn't deliver the killer blow.

The lefties don't like him because of some renewed love of America. They hate America. They hated it under Bush, who although was a twat, was a twat who represented a fierce and proud America. Obama is the herald of a deteriorated America, which is much more familiar to them.
I'm not going to respond to such an ignorant stereotype.

As my favourite bloggist wrote;

"Falling economy, rising unemployment, deceitful Left-wing politicians running the show—and record deficits—while seizing private businesses, intimidating their shareholders into silence and submission, and devising ever more audacious taxpayer money-grabbing schemes compared to which Bernie Maddof's Ponzi looks like amateur night: now, thank to Obama, [European] citizens can truly identify with America."
Ah yes, the American right's favourite myth. Socialist Europe, everyone's still in gulags
 
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i think it's stupid, and de-values the prize in my eyes,
But the other horrific winners and nominees of the prize don't?

on The View they were saying that
Oh dear. :p

I honestly have no idea why people care.

Anybody who thinks that the Nobel Prize is important or somehow a just cause is an idiot. I cbfed, but I'm sure there's a massive 'Criticisms of the Prize' sections on wikipedia; go look it up.
 

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But the other horrific winners and nominees of the prize don't?


Oh dear. :p

I honestly have no idea why people care.

Anybody who thinks that the Nobel Prize is important or somehow a just cause is an idiot. I cbfed, but I'm sure there's a massive 'Criticisms of the Prize' sections on wikipedia; go look it up.
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Don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet or not, but....

The deadline for nominating someone for a Nobel Peace Prize is Feb. 1st. So Obama basically got nominated for all the "amazing" things he did in his first NINE DAYS in office. This is really too ridiculous for words. Why not give him the Nobel Prize in physics too?

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bombing pakistan.

Expanding into afghanistan.

Not keeping his promise about leaving iraq.

Antagonizing iran.

Keeping silent about the gaza massacre.

Giving bailouts to greedy bankers, instead of people who actually deserve it.

What a joke.......
 

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No, actually I was referring to the Nobel Prize generally, not any of the prizes specifically.
You're just angry there's no Nobel Prize in Egyptology. Sorry, it's only for things that matter.

Soothe your pain, study Economics. It's the closest you'll ever get.
 

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i thought it was an internet joke
until i decide to google, and then
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2 public wars = peace prize. what a fucking farce.
Yep, plus public threats for a third war in Iran.

Not to mention the vast empire of overseas military bases and the torture and illegal imprisonment of captives without trial.

He has continued all of Bush's war mongering policies, he is just more elegant, and throws in a lot of positive rhetoric about change, and peace, and strengthening international relationships.

Obama has become a dangerous personality cult.
 

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You guys are seriously blaming the two current deployments/wars on Obama? Obama never promised to simply bring all the troops out of Iraq + Afghanistan as soon as he got in office - heck, he never said he would do anything about bringing troops out of Afghanistan.

Not to mention the vast empire of overseas military bases and the torture and illegal imprisonment of captives without trial.
The closure of Guantanamo Bay has got to be something which addresses that issue - and you know as well as I do that torture and all that shit will always go on, in every country. Wars + large prisons are hard to change, you can't say that he has 'continued' the policies that Bush put into place - fuck, you can't bring out tens/hundreds of thousands of troops with the click of his fingers, and you can't suddenly close down a prison with thousands of prisoners, some who are actually there for the right reasons.

But despite that - troops are already all out of Iraq, with the few that are remaining to come out some time next year. That, and the Guantanamo bay stuff does show that Obama cares, and that he isn't continuing Bush's war mongering policies. Fuck, everyone knows that something has to be done about Iran, they have a fucking nuclear program. Even the UN is sending people in to take a look at their crap.

Yep, plus public threats for a third war in Iran.
Can't say I saw these - care to link me to somewhere that Obama openly threatens war if Iran don't cease their nuclear program?

All the above doesn't mean that I think Obama should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize, like someone said above, the nomination cutoff was 1st of Feb, and he was only in office for 9 days at that point. I am, however, going off at jennyfromdabloc. Far out - it's not like he applied to get the award, in fact, he's probably shocked that he got it.
 

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Ah yes, the American right's favourite myth. Socialist Europe, everyone's still in gulags
Yeah man, those poor Europeans. Life is so tough in Norway and Sweeden.

Also lol at his claim that "appeasement" will bring about more attacks on America. No country in the world could attack America and small terrorist cells are going to be more of an issue when you keep invading shit.

Edit: And for the record the peace prize has always been a joke in my opinion.
 

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