Quality of a Band 3, 4, 5 or 6 student (2 Viewers)

[ashllis92]

Hi, I've been doing past papers and comparing raw marks to aligned HSC marks to see which band I would get roughly. I know that for each year the cut off changes depending on the difficulty of the paper but my question is, is the quality of a certain band always the same ie. Bob gets 78/100 for Chemistry which aligns to a band 6 (this is just an example) in the 2007 HSC. Now assuming he sat the 2006 HSC for practise which was a lot harder and he only got 70/100. Would Bob who is a band 6 student get a band six?

 

[boxhunter91]

I found the 2007 paper harder then the 2006. A 70 in that would of given you a mid to high band 5 but no chance 90+. A 78 in 2007 is a good mark and yeh would def be around band 6 range.

 

[brad616]

Band 6: 90-100 A

Displays an extensive sophisticated level of knowledge by going "above and beyond what is required." They not only show an understanding but evaluate this understanding with regards to the question.

A Band 6 student is a student who not only completes all the set work and the weekly work but does extra work to show that they have a superior level of understanding produced by quality, excellent knowledge as evident in their responses. An A grade excellent student is a student who goes the extra mile and therefore produces a perfect outstanding response.

Band 5: 80-89 B

Shows a very strong understanding, however, does not evaluate this understanding to show they know more than what the question is showing.

A Band 5 student is a student who not only does all the homework but also does the weekly exercises that the teacher provides the students with.

Band 4: 70-79 C
Shows a limited information by simply repeating the facts or the basic story line- as they only know the basic content/information required to pass the examination.

A Band 4 student will only complete the homework that the teacher gives and will not even make an attempt at the weekly homework or any past papers.

Band 3:60-69 D
Shows an inadequate understanding by being unable to grasp the basic facts and information required.

A Band 3 student will not complete the homework, weekly work or any past papers. A student in this category will not even attend all their classes for the whole year and may fail to submit assignments that contribute to the weighting of this task.

Band 2:50-59 E
Unable to write a response

A Band 2 student did not complete this subject as they did not attempt to even write a response to the question and therefore a 0 mark was awarded for that section

Band 1: 40-49 (NA) F
Did not complete the examination at all. A mark in this category suggests that a student has achieved below the minimum expectation for this subject.

A Band 1 student was either caught cheating and got 0 for the whole examination or did not write the exam.

 

[Schoey93]

Um, LOL, no. A Band 1 student DOES write the exam. I can assure you of that: they just DO NOT write it WELL... my friend (P.B.) got a Band 1 in S.C. Science and she wrote the exam...

 

[cem]

The whole point of aligning is so that the quality of the students who get Band 6 is the same from year to year so thereortically it shouldn't matter what year you do the HSC if you get a Band 6 one year you should get it the next.

As for Band 1 students they simply aren't very good.

A student could write 4 - 5 lines for a 5 mark question and get 1/5. Multiply that across a 100 mark paper and you end up at about 20/100 = an attempt but not very good and probably a Band 1 (although in some subjects that could be a Band 2).

 

[ajdlinux]

Sorry brad, whoever gave you that information was wrong. The band standards (perfomance descriptors) are explicitly defined by the Board of Studies, and band 1 does not mean you didn't sit the exam. They don't consider anything except for the number of outcomes you've achieved, essentially.

To answer the original question: the system is designed to do that, yes. A band 6-standard student should always get a band 6. Obviously it won't always work out perfectly because it's a strict mathematical process, but that's the way it's designed to work.

 

[ajdlinux]

Band 1: 40-49 (NA) F
Did not complete the examination at all. A mark in this category suggests that a student has achieved below the minimum expectation for this subject.

A Band 1 student was either caught cheating and got 0 for the whole examination or did not write the exam.

http://arc.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/standards-packs/SP02_15050/files/samples/q17/q17_b12_s1.pdf

There's an example of a band 1 student for you, straight from the official Board of Studies resources. They definitely did attempt the question, and they certainly didn't cheat - they just failed miserably at it!

 

[boxhunter91]

LOL and that answer ajdlinux

 

[cem]

http://arc.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/standards-packs/SP02_15050/files/samples/q17/q17_b12_s1.pdf

There's an example of a band 1 student for you, straight from the official Board of Studies resources. They definitely did attempt the question, and they certainly didn't cheat - they just failed miserably at it!

That student is at the borderline which means that the judges think that that standard should get 50/100. That is actually the very bottom of a Band 2 response and you can tell because at the top is says Band1/2 meaning that that is the borderline Band 2 response.

I have had a quite capable student get a Band 1 once. He got 49/100 because he accidentally did two questions from the same section and therefore left out a section, meaning that he left out 25% of the paper.

 

[Lazarus]

Hi, I've been doing past papers and comparing raw marks to aligned HSC marks to see which band I would get roughly. I know that for each year the cut off changes depending on the difficulty of the paper but my question is, is the quality of a certain band always the same ie. Bob gets 78/100 for Chemistry which aligns to a band 6 (this is just an example) in the 2007 HSC. Now assuming he sat the 2006 HSC for practise which was a lot harder and he only got 70/100. Would Bob who is a band 6 student get a band six?

The answer to your question is yes.

The purpose of the aligning process is to make marks from different years comparable between years.

 

[untouchablecuz]

never knew that

so aligning does serve an important purpose

 

[ashllis92]

Thanks for all the replies guys! +1 all round methinks

 

[ajdlinux]

That student is at the borderline which means that the judges think that that standard should get 50/100. That is actually the very bottom of a Band 2 response and you can tell because at the top is says Band1/2 meaning that that is the borderline Band 2 response.

I have had a quite capable student get a Band 1 once. He got 49/100 because he accidentally did two questions from the same section and therefore left out a section, meaning that he left out 25% of the paper.

Yes, borderline, I stand corrected. Still close enough to a band 1 though...

And that's really unfortunate for that student. I made that mistake back in year 8 when I missed an entire page, and I'm not going to make it again...