Which Western Taboos do you agree with? (2 Viewers)

[ComingUpForAir]

Child porn is interesting I wouldn't watch it/look at it because I don't find it a turn-on but some people do and it is better than them going out and raping the children.

I should report this deeply disturbed comment straight to the AFP, you support old sadistic freaks raping children and filming it so other old sadistic freaks can watch it 'without actually having to go out and rape children'.
Filthy torture nostalgic.

 

[SylviaB]

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OP asked what we view as morally wrong.



So here's my list:



1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

 

[KFunk]

Beastiality is essentially another name for zoophilia, which encompasses more than just sex with animals. Just like pedophile, neither dictate sex between their respective fetish.

Quibbling over semantics. The common lay interpretation of bestiality is typically sexual and, in most states at least, does not include cat massage.

 

[KFunk]

I felt bad about doing it.

Aye, that statistic certainly won't bring hope to childless, middle-aged women.

 

[Fish Tank]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

Reasons
Prostitution: Unmonitored, it is good for transferring STIs. Then the hospital system is burdened with cases that could've been prevented. Government regulation, including strict health checks, would make it good in my eyes.
Adultery: Undeserving pain for someone as a result of this.
Illegal drugs: Similar to prostitution, clogs up the hospitals. If small doses were medicinally beneficial, then yeh it'd be good, but I'm not sure so I'm going to assume it's similar to smoking (which I oppose).
Incest: Sex with sibling/parent/cousin? Ew
Bestiality: Sex with an animal, maybe the animal dun wanna get screwed? It doesn't work.
Child porn: Define child. Under 12 is so wrong. Around the 16 mark, they're capable of having sex (and legally able), so I see no major qualms.
Nudity: Maybe a 10 year old child doesn't want to see some 50 year old man's penis in public?
Cannibalism: I see it as a lack of respect for the deceased, but if you're on a desert island without any other source of food, then you have no choice I guess.
Necrophilia: Lack of respect for the dead, using the body more as an item.
Sex with children: Define child. If both people having sex are a similar age (under 16 the most variation I reckon is about 1 year) then I have no probs, but a 40 year old screwing an 8 year old is disgusting.
Gambling: When controlled, it's good. I'm concerned with the impacts of losing one's income on those around the person, like the ripple effect. If someone has 2 kids and blows their year's salary, then the children are worse off when they did nothing to instigate it. However, I have no probs with losing like $20 in a night at Vegas if you had fun.

 

[Arcorn]

Who says I believe that children should have rights?

 

[Will Shakespear]

Incest is just inherently morally wrong. And thats just full stop.

Are you for child porn if the child gave consent?

lol, you're a bible believing chistian... how do you get from Cain & Abel to us without a whole lotta incest?

 

[SylviaB]

Reasons
Prostitution: Unmonitored, it is good for transferring STIs.

Nothing IMMORAL about transferring STI's when people are well aware of the risks involved and choose to do it anyway
And also, if this is your reason why don't you view casual sex as immoral? because that's how most STI's are transferred

Then the hospital system is burdened with cases that could've been prevented. Government regulation, including strict health checks, would make it good in my eyes.

That's a problem with socialised healthcare, not solicited sex

Illegal drugs: Similar to prostitution, clogs up the hospitals. If small doses were medicinally beneficial, then yeh it'd be good, but I'm not sure so I'm going to assume it's similar to smoking (which I oppose).

again, problem with socialised healthcare

Incest: Sex with sibling/parent/cousin? Ew

Wow, intellectual giant here folks.

"EW I find X behaviour gross so therefore it is immoral"

Bestiality: Sex with an animal, maybe the animal dun wanna get screwed? It doesn't work.

I'd imagine that most people who engage in bestiality at least try to make it so that the animal wants to engage in intercourse, primarily because it would be more enjoyable this way, and not just physically.
plus if it's a chick having sex with the animal then the animal must want to have sex with her

also, how is an animal having dick when it doesn't want dick any worse than the things that animals raised for consumption have to go through on a daily basis?

Nudity: Maybe a 10 year old child doesn't want to see some 50 year old man's penis in public?

So? I might not want to see your face in public, but by seeing it, or the girl seeing the man's penis, mine nor the girls rights are being violated so we can just suck it up

Necrophilia: Lack of respect for the dead, using the body more as an item.

I believe the body becomes property of the deceased person's next of kin, so obviously having sex with it without their permission would be violating their property rights

however, the act itself is not actually hurting the person. I mean, sure, the thought of some dude rooting my dead body seems absolutely revolting, however, when I die I won't care, because you know, I'll be DEAD and hence incapable of caring.

Gambling: When controlled, it's good. I'm concerned with the impacts of losing one's income on those around the person, like the ripple effect. If someone has 2 kids and blows their year's salary, then the children are worse off when they did nothing to instigate it. However, I have no probs with losing like $20 in a night at Vegas if you had fun.

You don't have a problem with gambling, you have a problem with fiscal irresponsibility.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Wow, intellectual giant here folks.

"EW I find X behaviour gross so therefore it is immoral"

Is that not what morals are, the individuals ideals and beliefs?

 

[KFunk]

Wow, intellectual giant here folks.

"EW I find X behaviour gross so therefore it is immoral"

If morality depends on an intuitive faculty, such as might warrant the term 'moral sensibility', then one would expect moral tenets to issue from gut-feelings rather than as conclusions of rational argument. After all, if we take the path of rational deduction how do we obtain our initial premises?

 

[Fish Tank]

Before I start, I dislike irresponsible actions if they have the potential to harm others. In my book that makes it wrong. In general, gut feeling and desire to prevent ugly situations influence what I deem as morally right.

Nothing IMMORAL about transferring STI's when people are well aware of the risks involved and choose to do it anyway
And also, if this is your reason why don't you view casual sex as immoral? because that's how most STI's are transferred

If people are aware of the risks, then by all means engage in the activity. However, AIDS doesn't immediately pop up right after you've had sex with a carrier, something like 2 months to 10 years for HIV to turn into AIDS. Then there's the potential to spread it down the chain (not necessarily through sex) and infect others, and that would be an irresponsible thing to do... but if no tests are conducted, who actually knows it's there?

That's a problem with socialised healthcare, not solicited sex

again, problem with socialised healthcare

If there are ineffective ways to deal with the problem, is it not wise to prevent it in the first place?

Wow, intellectual giant here folks.

"EW I find X behaviour gross so therefore it is immoral"

Gut feeling. So sue me.

I'd imagine that most people who engage in bestiality at least try to make it so that the animal wants to engage in intercourse, primarily because it would be more enjoyable this way, and not just physically.
plus if it's a chick having sex with the animal then the animal must want to have sex with her

also, how is an animal having dick when it doesn't want dick any worse than the things that animals raised for consumption have to go through on a daily basis?

I'm not an animal activist, tbh I don't care much for animals except for their worth as a resource (including as pets, if you may). The basic biological point of having sex is to reproduce (humans find it pleasurable, hence a desire to reproduce). Intercourse with another species doesn't work in that sense, so biologically it is wrong. That point aside, my gut feeling says 'don't do it'.

So? I might not want to see your face in public, but by seeing it, or the girl seeing the man's penis, mine nor the girls rights are being violated so we can just suck it up

Real mature argument. On a slightly more serious note, some people may abuse the freedom of wearing no clothes, and it might lead into sexual assault. There's no real way of knowing for certain, but out of 6.7 billion people in the world, I'm sure there's a chance someone's gonna do something stupid. Again, desire to prevent reckless actions.

I believe the body becomes property of the deceased person's next of kin, so obviously having sex with it without their permission would be violating their property rights

I can't say I believe that.

however, the act itself is not actually hurting the person. I mean, sure, the thought of some dude rooting my dead body seems absolutely revolting, however, when I die I won't care, because you know, I'll be DEAD and hence incapable of caring.

I understand the idea that the deceased is not harmed by the action, I just find it disrespectful to their memory. Just basic gut feeling for me.

You don't have a problem with gambling, you have a problem with fiscal irresponsibility.

I have a problem with irresponsibility, yes, and that leads into my problem with gambling in extreme cases. It's alright if you lose a small amount in the name of having fun, but when it begins to affect others nearby that's when I have a problem.


If there is a method of preventing any undesirable consequences associated with an action, then I will not hesitate in accepting it.

 

[badquinton304]

So? I might not want to see your face in public, but by seeing it, or the girl seeing the man's penis, mine nor the girls rights are being violated so we can just suck it up

"Nice to see you sir? Take a seat... go ..go on take a seat right over there."

I agree with you but regardless I will take the liberty to slam the naked person on the concrete and start kicking the shit out of them.
Shame most nudists are old ugly fuckers. If it was a hot chick you could pull the whole falling over needed to grab something, or the other copping a feel tricks from The Alphabet of Manliness.

 

[SylviaB]

Before I start, I dislike irresponsible actions if they have the potential to harm others. In my book that makes it wrong. In general, gut feeling and desire to prevent ugly situations influence what I deem as morally right.

hahahahahahah

If people are aware of the risks, then by all means engage in the activity. However, AIDS doesn't immediately pop up right after you've had sex with a carrier, something like 2 months to 10 years for HIV to turn into AIDS. Then there's the potential to spread it down the chain (not necessarily through sex) and infect others, and that would be an irresponsible thing to do... but if no tests are conducted, who actually knows it's there?

No I mean if you're using the services of a prostitute then you should not act surprised when you catch an STI

And "spread it down the chain"? Oh boo hoo some drug head gets aids from a needle

If there are ineffective ways to deal with the problem, is it not wise to prevent it in the first place?

if people are causing harm to themselves then no problem exists.

Its only when you transfer the burden to the public when a problem arises

Gut feeling. So sue me.

thats how rational conclusions are formed. gut feeling.

right

I'm not an animal activist, tbh I don't care much for animals except for their worth as a resource (including as pets, if you may). The basic biological point of having sex is to reproduce (humans find it pleasurable, hence a desire to reproduce). Intercourse with another species doesn't work in that sense, so biologically it is wrong. That point aside, my gut feeling says 'don't do it'.

"It is wrong". How is "having sex without reproducing" immoral? Where is the victim?

Real mature argument. On a slightly more serious note, some people may abuse the freedom of wearing no clothes, and it might lead into sexual assault. There's no real way of knowing for certain, but out of 6.7 billion people in the world, I'm sure there's a chance someone's gonna do something stupid. Again, desire to prevent reckless actions.

yeah good point good point tbh the way that humans wearing clothes has completely eliminated sexual assault is simply amazing

I understand the idea that the deceased is not harmed by the action, I just find it disrespectful to their memory. Just basic gut feeling for me.

yeah but there's no victim so I win.

I have a problem with irresponsibility, yes, and that leads into my problem with gambling in extreme cases. It's alright if you lose a small amount in the name of having fun, but when it begins to affect others nearby that's when I have a problem.

okay you completely ignored my point


your problem is not with gambling. There is nothing inherently immoral about gambling


the only time you take issue with it is when people spend money they shouldn't. this is not a problem with gambling.

This poor use of money can be applied to anything, alcohol for example.

Nothing inherently immoral about alcohol, but spend money on it that you shouldn't and then there's a problem. Do you see what I'm getting at here?

If there is a method of preventing any undesirable consequences associated with an action, then I will not hesitate in accepting it.

haha, so by that logic you MUST be in favoru of banning:

alcohol, tobacco, gambling, sex between individuals when one of them has an STI, cars, aeroplanes, unhealthy foods....

 

[SylviaB]

"Nice to see you sir? Take a seat... go ..go on take a seat right over there."

I agree with you but regardless I will take the liberty to slam the naked person on the concrete and start kicking the shit out of them.
Shame most nudists are old ugly fuckers. If it was a hot chick you could pull the whole falling over needed to grab something, or the other copping a feel tricks from The Alphabet of Manliness.

you do realise by suck it up I mean man up, get over it etc.


And if there were pedophiles tempted to practise public nudity, then this would be disadvantageous for them if they were trying to take, or even just fondle small children, because some dude sporting a massive hard on walking up to a child is going to set off major alarm bells for those in the immediate area

If morality depends on an intuitive faculty, such as might warrant the term 'moral sensibility', then one would expect moral tenets to issue from gut-feelings rather than as conclusions of rational argument. After all, if we take the path of rational deduction how do we obtain our initial premises?

"gut feeling approach": Nah i find gay homosexuality gross so therefore its immoral

rational approach: i find homosexuality to be utterly unappealing but I acknowledge that it is not physically hurting nor encroaching on the rights of others and hence it is not inherently immoral

 

[redmayne]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

With incest, for me the morality would depend on the extent of the sexual activity. Intercourse just can't be allowed. Regardless of what incest may or may not have occured in the early times of the human race, today we know what effects can come from it. And they can be pretty disgusting and terrible.

Bestiality is disgusting and immoral. You can't say there isn't a victim in it, because it's unlikely the animal is enjoying it. Now I'm not some feverish animal protector, but they deserve to not be raped as well. Humans are animals as well, we're not above them, just because we're smarter and more advanced doesn't give us the right to do that to them.

And some smartarse might choose to say here that we harm animals all the time in the production of food. Obviously true, but that's - unfortunately - somewhat inevitable in providing the world with food. It's useful. The only purpose bestiality serves is to satisfy the perverse pleasure of some loony.

I can't believe anyone could even think about letting child porn off the hook. You've all seen the news, these are young kids. Imagine the long term harm this does to them. It's a very strong human being that can shrug off that type of mental scarring and live a normal life.

Necrophilia is not about so-called property, or whether you care or not when you're dead. In my current alive state, I do not want my body to be treated like that now, and especially when I'm dead. In society, we obey the wishes of people's wills, and the desire not to be touched like that when dead is pretty much implicit on most people's wills. It's completely morally wrong and disrespectful.

Sex with children is pretty much in the same vein as child porn. Heavy emotional scarring as a result of it is undeniable, even in cases where the child was supposedly consenting. Its doubtful a child has the capacity to make a decision about something like that anyway. There's no need to have sex with a child, go out and screw someone your own age.

And an honourable mention to cannibalism. As long as people aren't killing to get the meat, and the person gave permission when they were alive, I think it's somewhat hard to say it's completely morally unacceptable. Even though I find it vomitworthy.

EDIT: And what's with some of these taboos?

Casual sex hasn't been a taboo for a while now, it's pretty much only like that with the over 60s.

And I don't know that you could call homosexuality a taboo anymore. The gay community is pretty obvious and widespread. Just because the ever decreasing amount of homophobes don't like it, doesn't mean it's a taboo.

Asking someone's income is just a bit rude, not a taboo.

Gambling is so far from a taboo. Have you been out recently?

And people just don't like being farted on or having to smell it.

Maybe you put them in to be funny, I dunno, but otherwise I think you need to tweak your understanding of "taboo".

 

[Serius]

Hmm ok.

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

Sex with children...if we are talking walking that consent line, then no its not inherently wrong to sleep with, say a 15yr old. Raping a 7 year old though? yeah thats wrong. I am going to take it you mean the later meaning.

Adultery isnt always wrong and shouldnt be illegal, but i admit alot of the time it is probably morally wrong.

Cannabalism.... it depends on what context. If someone dies of natural causes, and in their will then they say they want to be consumed by people, then i dont think theres anything morally wrong with that. If you are hunting people down and killing them because you enjoy the taste of human flesh, thats wrong.

I dont have any major problem with any of the others tbh. I understand why some people do, but i dont think its perfectly logical really.

 

[badquinton304]

you do realise by suck it up I mean man up, get over it etc.

I know its just the choice of wording is hilarious.

 

[brunx]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

So rude.

 

[KFunk]

"gut feeling approach": Nah i find gay homosexuality gross so therefore its immoral

rational approach: i find homosexuality to be utterly unappealing but I acknowledge that it is not physically hurting nor encroaching on the rights of others and hence it is not inherently immoral

Uhuh, and why is physical harm immoral?

 

[0bs3n3]

Uhuh, and why is physical harm immoral?

Why are things illegal? Because they affect how others can exercise their freedoms, usually.