Which Western Taboos do you agree with? (5 Viewers)

[KFunk]

Very unlikely crack would have even been popularized had it not been for the criminalization of cocaine.

Quite frankly I'd rather have kids trying a bit of pure cocaine or heroin than some of the things kids determined to get high currently experiment with such as petrol, glue and aerosols.

That's a fairly weak argument to my mind. It seems to be premised on a false dichotomy - that kids will either try a pure, legalised, (?safe) drug or they will chug on something industrial and skanky (and presumably not both?).

 

[KFunk]

Kids born to 1st cousins have about a 5% chance of birth defects.

Kids born to 40 year-old mothers have about a 5% chance of birth defects.

Note that we would be looking at qualitatively different kinds of birth defects, such that they could be more severe in one of the two cases. Either way, I love your reductio - well played.

 

[Absolutezero]

Keep in mind that incest does not necessarily mean that a child will be produced. That's only a possibility, that can be easily monitored and prevented.

Therefore, for those who disagree with it... What if they choose not to have a child? Does that make it less taboo?

 

[Lukybear]

Keep in mind that incest does not necessarily mean that a child will be produced. That's only a possibility, that can be easily monitored and prevented.

Therefore, for those who disagree with it... What if they choose not to have a child? Does that make it less taboo?

Incest is just inherently morally wrong. And thats just full stop.

Are you for child porn if the child gave consent?

 

[Absolutezero]

Are you for child porn if the child gave consent?

No, not exactly. I believe there is a limit to how much consent a child can give, given their age. Clearly, I don't believe a three year old can give consent and understand the implications of their decision. Clearly as Pwar stated, it is hard to give a definitive answer, and that age is an issue.

However, computer generated child pornography for example, I would have no problem with. Pedophilia is no different that any other fetish, that should be safely catered for. It is unjust to list every pedophile as an abusive, manipulator of children.

 

[Lukybear]

While I disagree with both incest and child porn, I might just point out that the difference there is that many if not all would say that a child by nature is unable to make a responsible and mature decision to give consent.

But how do you measure that? By age, generalising for all children? What if the child is 17.. or just a mature 15 yr old.


What about necrophilia? Or consentual canniablism?

 

[Absolutezero]

But how do you measure that? By age, generalising for all children? What if the child is 17.. or just a mature 15 yr old.

Exactly why it would be hard to legalise. Age =/= maturity.

 

[Lukybear]

Exactly why it would be hard to legalise. Age =/= maturity.

You never said anything about mutual cannaibalism or consented necrophilia.

 

[Absolutezero]

However, in terms of porn, I agree with the law that actors/actresses must be 18, that is a fair and simple way of measuring it.

But compare the 18 year old, fresh out of school, kicked out of home. Needs a way to get quick money, and so sells their body in a short porn film for a couple of bucks.

Should that situation be more legal than a 17 year old whose considered the relative pros and cons and made an informed decision?

Everything is situational IMO.

 

[Absolutezero]

You never said anything about mutual cannaibalism or consented necrophilia.</SPAN>

If a satisfied agreement can be come to between the two affected parties, then I see no real issue with it.

 

[Lukybear]

If a satisfied agreement can be come to between the two affected parties, then I see no real issue with it.

But does it disgust you not? Arent you innately affected by a necrophilia?

 

[Absolutezero]

But does it disgust you not? Arent you innately affected by a necrophilia?

Who am I to judge what someone wants to do? As long as no party is being manipulated, or unwilling hurt, then it's their choice.

 

[ashie0]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

Not sure on bestiality because there are issues with consent. That's basically it.

 

[Ms. BRIGHTSIDE]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

 

[Slidey]

Either way, I love your reductio - well played.

I felt bad about doing it.

 

[fliick]

Um yeah ok but women over the age of 40 who procreate with people they're not related to have higher incidences of autism and Down Syndrome.
People who abuse substances during pregnancy have higher levels of neural tube defects, autism spectrum disorders and other behavioural and physical disabilities.

So unless we preclude a whole chunk of society from breeding because of increased risk of x...


FYI, incestuous couples do not have disabled children 100% of the time, much like older women don't have disabled babies 100% of the time..

So I mean... it's pretty dumb to say incest should not be allowed because if these people have babies then the babies might be tarded...

Fuck yes.
But kids don't need to be born fucked up. It's no shit incestuous couples don't have retarded babies 100% of the time. It's just a higher percentage than usual, which is enough for me to think I won't go find me a kissing cousin.

That's reason enough. I like to look at things logically; I frown upon incestuous couples that want to procreate.

 

[kelly tully]

Fuck yes.
But kids don't need to be born fucked up. It's no shit incestuous couples don't have retarded babies 100% of the time. It's just a higher percentage than usual, which is enough for me to think I won't go find me a kissing cousin.

That's reason enough. I like to look at things logically; I frown upon incestuous couples that want to procreate.

Yes but if we were to sterilise or preclude incestuous couples from having kids, would there be any moral reason left as to why they shouldn't continue their relationship.

 

[fliick]

Yes but if we were to sterilise or preclude incestuous couples from having kids, would there be any moral reason left as to why they shouldn't continue their relationship.

I am indifferent about incestuous relationships.
I don't care if they adopt.
Just no procreation with blood relatives.

 

[Arcorn]

1. Prostitution
2. Adultery
3. Illegal drugs
4. Incest
5. Bestiality
6. Pornography
7. Child Pornography
8. Eating dogs
9. Eating horses
10. Homosexuality
11. Nudity
12. Cannibalism
13. Necrophilia
14. Asking people their income
15. Swearing
16. Casual sex
17. Sex with children
18. Gambling
19. BDSM
20. Farting

Sex with Children is pre-pubescent not this whole under 16 crap, and incest is just wrong and causes genetic fuck-ups. Bestiality can cause harm to animals thus I don't agree with it.

Child porn is interesting I wouldn't watch it/look at it because I don't find it a turn-on but some people do and it is better than them going out and raping the children.

Monogamy isn't natural and due to society it is morally wrong and I believe polygamy shouldn't be frowned on even though I'm a very firm monogamist.

Necrophilia is messed up but the person is dead they won't notice or care. Cannibalism is fine with consent but humans aren't bred for eating so if against their will than a problem occurs.

I don't care about everything else there.

 

[Absolutezero]

Bestiality can cause harm to animals thus I don't agree with it.

Beastiality is essentially another name for zoophilia, which encompasses more than just sex with animals. Just like pedophile, neither dictate sex between their respective fetish.