Ayaan Hirsi Ali (6 Viewers)

[ibbi00]

bala, ana filistaniyi...mab t3aref min ana? surprise!

Busted...

Also, why do people have to resort to trolling.

 

[arcticdbk]

It's not a minority.

For example.. hijab. The hijab is VERY common for Muslim women. Yet the Qur'an stipules the dress code be:

1. Cover your chest
2. Lengthen your garments
3. Preserve your modesty

which IMO are very, very reasonable rules, yet we have a majority which preaches the hijab as compulsory, and a minority within that which preach that NIQAB is compulsory.

This is what I argue re hijab.^

And the niqab is not compulsary. It is only indocrinated in Saudi Arabian and Afghan law. I personally object heavily to the niqab, however, if a person wishes to do so, then I cannot say much.

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

The main problem is most of these hadith are untrue, even hijab itself, their is no word in qur'an that women should literally wear hijap.

Thats why in islam, only the quran is to be followed, not some book written by COUNTLESS people. It just loses its authenticity.

 

[mirakon]

It's not a minority.

For example.. hijab. The hijab is VERY common for Muslim women. Yet the Qur'an stipules the dress code be:

1. Cover your chest
2. Lengthen your garments
3. Preserve your modesty

which IMO are very, very reasonable rules, yet we have a majority which preaches the hijab as compulsory, and a minority within that which preach that NIQAB is compulsory.

Yes, but how many Muslim women do you see? Maybe you see only a few thus distorting the percentage of people who do wear it, or a select proportion of the community that is more conservative.

Has it occured to you also, that these hijabs are the choice of the women themselves in most cases rather than the oppresion of their husbands (which undeniably does happen, but imo to a less common extent)

And again, this not the fault of the religion, which is based on the Qur'an but of scholars who distort it via obscure hadith that not many Muslims actually read.

I argue that the basis on which the hijab and niqab are worn is not religious but something inherent in Arabic culture

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

It's not a minority.

For example.. hijab. The hijab is VERY common for Muslim women. Yet the Qur'an stipules the dress code be:

1. Cover your chest
2. Lengthen your garments
3. Preserve your modesty

which IMO are very, very reasonable rules, yet we have a majority which preaches the hijab as compulsory, and a minority within that which preach that NIQAB is compulsory.

I agree with that, 100 percent actually lol

 

[arcticdbk]

OOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, jeee, haha u got banned lols
pwnedd

ahlan ahlaaaaaaan

Confirmed Jeee.

are you that chick violet something

Busted...

Also, why do people have to resort to trolling.

I wasn't exactly hiding it ya wlad.

 

[Yo1anda]

ahlan ahlaaaaaaan







I wasn't exactly hiding it ya wlad.

I said you were Jee but Meilz was like, but arctic is anorexic and Jeee is smart and yeah.

 

[arcticdbk]

Four falastinis in this thread. Brings a tear to my eye.

Nah, I banned myself, but I couldn't access resources (doh!)

so I used this one to do so, and then I surfed the forums and I just had to response to some posts, and here I am, fucking procrastinating on this bullshit website.

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

Yes, but how many Muslim women do you see? Maybe you see only a few thus distorting the percentage of people who do wear it, or a select proportion of the community that is more conservative.

Has it occured to you also, that these hijabs are the choice of the women themselves in most cases rather than the oppresion of their husbands (which undeniably does happen, but imo to a less common extent)

And again, this not the fault of the religion, which is based on the Qur'an but of scholars who distort it via obscure hadith that not many Muslims actually read.

Soooo true. Well said. Thats what ive been saying, islam in no way advocates this barbaric rubbish, and forcing your fucking 10 year old daughter to marry some old cunt. Islam is against it!!, Read the quran, it is completely against this shit. Just dumb cunt people who decide to distort, what i believe are excellent ethics within islam.

 

[arcticdbk]

I said you were Jee but Meilz was like, but arctic is anorexic and Jeee is smart and yeah.

I am not anorexic! I was talking about wanting to lose weight in the other thread that's all

And I'm definitely am becoming more and more distant from anorexia over these food fuelled last couple of weeks hsc fml

Plus I wasn't hiding it at all, I was surprised nobody picked it after my first few posts

 

[Yo1anda]

Yes, but how many Muslim women do you see? Maybe you see only a few thus distorting the percentage of people who do wear it, or a select proportion of the community that is more conservative.

Has it occured to you also, that these hijabs are the choice of the women themselves in most cases rather than the oppresion of their husbands (which undeniably does happen, but imo to a less common extent)

And again, this not the fault of the religion, which is based on the Qur'an but of scholars who distort it via obscure hadith that not many Muslims actually read.

I argue that the basis on which the hijab and niqab are worn is not religious but something inherent in Arabic culture

I see a lot of Muslim women, actually. Who wear the hijab despite not being very religious, it's indisputably accepted as the norm.

As for the oppression of hijab- I haven't made that point actually, but I'm going to have to argue that being taught from birth that that's how women SHOULD BE, is a form of oppression. Whether it be from the husband, mother, father, or the rest of the Muslim community.

Bukhari's hadith is very widely accepted by Muslims everywhere, and it outlines the law regarding hijab (ie, that it is compulsory). Pray tell, if it's not the religion that's making everyone go batshit crazy, what is it?

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

Four falastinis in this thread. Brings a tear to my eye.

Nah, I banned myself, but I couldn't access resources (doh!)

so I used this one to do so, and then I surfed the forums and I just had to response to some posts, and here I am, fucking procrastinating on this bullshit website.

Oi, woman, how you know im falestini yo?

 

[ibbi00]

Oi, woman, how you know im falestini yo?

Mate, no one told me.

 

[arcticdbk]

I see a lot of Muslim women, actually. Who wear the hijab despite not being very religious, it's indisputably accepted as the norm.

As for the oppression of hijab- I haven't made that point actually, but I'm going to have to argue that being taught from birth that that's how women SHOULD BE, is a form of oppression. Whether it be from the husband, mother, father, or the rest of the Muslim community.

Bukhari's hadith is very widely accepted by Muslims everywhere, and it outlines the law regarding hijab (ie, that it is compulsory). Pray tell, if it's not the religion that's making everyone go batshit crazy, what is it?

That argument is fallacious. Is a girl being brought up to be girly and like pink a form of oppression? Is a boy who is taught that he should not cry a form of oppression? These are all just social conventions and norms, and social norms have existed in human society since ancient ancient times.

 

[Rothbard]

I'm p sure posting in non-white is an instaban

 

[arcticdbk]

Oi, woman, how you know im falestini yo?

As if you still haven't worked out who I am

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

I see a lot of Muslim women, actually. Who wear the hijab despite not being very religious, it's indisputably accepted as the norm.

As for the oppression of hijab- I haven't made that point actually, but I'm going to have to argue that being taught from birth that that's how women SHOULD BE, is a form of oppression. Whether it be from the husband, mother, father, or the rest of the Muslim community.

Bukhari's hadith is very widely accepted by Muslims everywhere, and it outlines the law regarding hijab (ie, that it is compulsory). Pray tell, if it's not the religion that's making everyone go batshit crazy, what is it?

Sorry, no offence, but crazy parents like urs then, if thats how you were raised. Look if u dont like what ur parents have done, just tell them to fuck off and leave no offence, theyve obviously given you a WRONGG understanding of islam because of their narrow mindedness. I am quite religious.... sorta... and only the quran is to be followed, ok no more SHYYAAA.

 

[arcticdbk]

I'm p sure posting in non-white is an instaban

Do not be hating on bilingual us

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

As if you still haven't worked out who I am

I know who you are, but how did you know that im palestinian?

 

[Sheikh_Taj]

I'm p sure posting in non-white is an instaban

Maaate.