Do you get criticism due to your music choices? (1 Viewer)

Do you get criticised for your music?

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only because i'm bored


radiohead, the smiths, the cure, joy division, foxygen, grimes, classical stuff, french stuff, 30-50's stuff, jazz etc. etc.
nothing special who cares
 

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Eh I wouldn't use that as an example. That and Gangnam Style are the only 2 songs from K-pop that are actually known. People judge k-pop based on those 2 songs, and they don't define what kpop is like in any way. There is a lot more to it - like I said every genre has something to offer. Actually, a lot of people don't get that.
Idk about that. "Lowest common denominator" influences from electronic music seem to be a staple of kpop, same with western hip hop now.
 

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Idk about that. "Lowest common denominator" influences from electronic music seem to be a staple of kpop, same with western hip hop now.
Yeah. Most music nowadays just has beats, drums, bass and some singing over the top lol
 

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True, but still:

- Bon Jovi
- Phil Collins
- Michael Jackson
- Hall and Oates
- Ronan Keating
- Whitney Houston
- Huey Lewis and the News
- Journey
- Matchbox 20
- Bryan Adams
- Prince
- Van Halen
- Aerosmith
- INXS

To name a few...
 
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True, but still:

- Bon Jovi
- Phil Collins
- Michael Jackson
- Hall and Oates
- Ronan Keating
- Whitney Houston
- Huey Lewis and the News
- Journey
- Matchbox 20
- Bryan Adams
- Prince
- Van Halen
- Aerosmith

To name a few...
Matchbox 20! They are so good :)
 

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Yeah. Most music nowadays just has beats, drums, bass and some singing over the top lol
Well, to be fair, I think music has been like that forever. I know you were referring to electronic instruments though.

Anyway i'm not complaining about any of this, makes sense that mainstream (as in top 40) music would just be lowest common denominator elements from various genres. It's probably been happening forever but is just really noticeable with EDM.

True, but that doesn't oppose what I stated.
I'm just saying it's not like Psy's recent music is vastly different to everything else labelled as kpop.
 
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Damn. But Daft Punk doesn't count. Like, Daft Punk can be considered old school house. I'm mainly talking about the very modern/mainstream stuff. So all that progressive house or whatever it is. Every genre has something to offer, of course, but I just don't understand its popularity.
Basically, the moment that a handful of new artists burst into the popular music scene with a different to usual sound/genre that becomes a major hit, the well established influential pop stars often follow and bring it into their own music and consequently the majority of the mainstream audience. Whilst a different genre to the usual becoming a hit happens all the time, you know there is a trend happening if what should be a rare occasion (i.e. a different genre to the currently popular one becoming a hit) starts happening a few too many times.

It is quite interesting if you look at how the popular music tastes evolved in 00s to what it is today.

In the early to late 00s R&B/Hip-Hop had dominant popularity over all other genres and EDM had relatively limited attention. People like Eminem, 50 Cent, Outkast, Nelly, Jay-Z, Timbaland, Beyonce etc were the big guns at the time. Then you had pop stars who already had well established fan-bases in the 90s bringing hip-hop into their music like Britney, JT, Madonna, Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, JLo etc and they helped increase hip-hop's popularity in the mainstream.

By the late 00s, people like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Ke$ha etc burst into the popular music scene where they sampled electronic music in their songs with great success. Once again, well established pop stars decided it was trendy and followed suit; bringing it to the mainstream audience. Some notable examples are Rihanna, Chris Brown, Britney and Usher who all had R&B/Hip-Hop sounds in the 00s and now have much more electronic influences in their music. The ever controversial Nicki Minaj is an interesting example who dabbles in both hip-hop (which is presumably her roots) and electronic at the same time lol :p

Lol but how can ppl give you shit for liking SHM lol it's so good
lol damn right haha
 
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True, but still:

- Bon Jovi
- Phil Collins
- Michael Jackson
- Hall and Oates
- Ronan Keating
- Whitney Houston
- Huey Lewis and the News
- Journey
- Matchbox 20
- Bryan Adams
- Prince
- Van Halen
- Aerosmith
- INXS

To name a few...
There's nothing even remotely controversial on that list
 

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Well, to be fair, I think music has been like that forever. I know you were referring to electronic instruments though.

Anyway i'm not complaining about any of this, makes sense that mainstream (as in top 40) music would just be lowest common denominator elements from various genres. It's probably been happening forever but is just really noticeable with EDM.


I'm just saying it's not like Psy's recent music is vastly different to everything else labelled as kpop.
There are reasonably good songs in kpop but people really look down upon it because of Psy. I agree with you, but at the same time I don't.

From what I have said earlier it may seem like I hate electronic music, but that's not the case. I like things from every genre. If there is something that stands out in a song, or it has likeable lyrics or a fun sound, then I like it. Regardless of the genre. Therefore there are some kpop songs I like. And also EDM. But most of the time I can't stand it - it doesn't have any powerful lyrics, too often nothing really stands out, and I don't feel any emotion behind it. So... Kpop may be defined by electronic sounds. But take Gangnam Style as an example - there is nothing good about the lyrics, nothing stands out, no emotion or meaning behind it, no unique sound. That's not the case with all kpop songs.

So yeah, in the end the mainstream just has not won my heart over by transitioning into the electronic scene. Some people follow what is popular which at the moment is electronic sounds (hence the mainstream), but yeah, there is more to music than that.
 
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There are reasonably good songs in kpop but people really look down upon it because of Psy. I agree with you, but at the same time I don't.

From what I have said earlier it may seem like I hate electronic music, but that's not the case. I like things from every genre. If there is something that stands out in a song, or it has likeable lyrics or a fun sound, then I like it. Regardless of the genre. Therefore there are some kpop songs I like. And also EDM. But most of the time I can't stand it - it doesn't have any powerful lyrics, too often nothing really stands out, and I don't feel any emotion behind it. So... Kpop may be defined by electronic sounds. But take Gangnam Style as an example - there is nothing good about the lyrics, nothing stands out, no emotion or meaning behind it, no unique sound. That's not the case with all kpop songs.
Old Kpop was good, new Kpop is blah ....
 

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There are reasonably good songs in kpop but people really look down upon it because of Psy. I agree with you, but at the same time I don't.

From what I have said earlier it may seem like I hate electronic music, but that's not the case. I like things from every genre. If there is something that stands out in a song, or it has likeable lyrics or a fun sound, then I like it. Regardless of the genre. Therefore there are some kpop songs I like. And also EDM. But most of the time I can't stand it - it doesn't have any powerful lyrics, too often nothing really stands out, and I don't feel any emotion behind it. So... Kpop may be defined by electronic sounds. But take Gangnam Style as an example - there is nothing good about the lyrics, nothing stands out, no emotion or meaning behind it, no unique sound. That's not the case with all kpop songs.
I beg to differ. The song is a satirical comment about the lavish OTT lifestyle of Gangnam. It's just that western audiences never pick up that meaning because they're distracted by the video/dance and it's lost in translation.
 
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I beg to differ. The song is a satirical comment about the lavish OTT lifestyle of Gangnam. It's just that western audiences never pick up that meaning because they're distracted by the video/dance and it's lost in translation.
My bad, I was kind of relating to and building upon what I wrote 2 sentences earlier (B"ut most of the time I can't stand it - it doesn't have any powerful lyrics, too often nothing really stands out, and I don't feel any emotion behind it. ").

All songs have some meaning behind them to an extend... but the fact is not all of them manage to communicate that over to the audience. And very often that is not the main objective of the song.
 

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My bad, I was kind of relating to and building upon what I wrote 2 sentences earlier (B"ut most of the time I can't stand it - it doesn't have any powerful lyrics, too often nothing really stands out, and I don't feel any emotion behind it. ").

All songs have some meaning behind them to an extend... but the fact is not all of them manage to communicate that over to the audience. And very often that is not the main objective of the song.
Ah, isn't the aim of songs nowadays to be catchy?
 

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Kpop was looked down upon well before Psy.
Of course. But before it was mostly looked down upon purely because it's foreign music, sang in a foreign language. Now PSY has just given people more excuses to hate on Kpop.
 

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Of course. But before it was mostly looked down upon purely because it's foreign music, sang in a foreign language. Now PSY has just given people more excuses to hate on Kpop.
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nobody looks down on euro music
 

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Ah, isn't the aim of songs nowadays to be catchy?
That's what I was getting at with the last sentence. 'And very often that is not the main objective of the song.'. Yes, nowadays it's all about how catchy the song is. Hence the, "oh man wait for the drop wait for the drop!111!!1!1".
 

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