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Totally agree, as much as it pains me to think of the money I wasted on uni, something I dont regret is doing HECS. I never saw the benefit of paying up front and looking at the amount deducted weekly from my paycheck, it is literally a small price to pay.
 

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plus if you leave the country, no more debt.

and dont bring up the gvmts supposed attempts to get 50 countries around the world to give them info regarding australian's income and then legally enforce they pay australias debt for them
 

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I'm so thankful for being eligible for HECS this year.

I can finally save my money towards something other than tuition fees!
 

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plus if you leave the country, no more debt.
But if you're not a scumbag, you'd actually pay the debt off yourself either before leaving or while working overseas.
 

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plus if you leave the country, no more debt.

and dont bring up the gvmts supposed attempts to get 50 countries around the world to give them info regarding australian's income and then legally enforce they pay australias debt for them
That's only if you leave permanently. If you are still an Australian citizen, then even if you work overseas, you must repay as if you were living in Australia.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/Overseas-repayments/
 

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Totally agree, as much as it pains me to think of the money I wasted on uni, something I dont regret is doing HECS. I never saw the benefit of paying up front and looking at the amount deducted weekly from my paycheck, it is literally a small price to pay.
How much is it deducted from your paycheck roughly?


I'm going to take up HECS instead of paying upfront even though I have the money to pay upfront (or a large chunk of it). But now I'm just a bit confused with what to do with this uni money. Should I just leave it aside in case I want to pay off straight away one day?
 

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How much is it deducted from your paycheck roughly?


I'm going to take up HECS instead of paying upfront even though I have the money to pay upfront (or a large chunk of it). But now I'm just a bit confused with what to do with this uni money. Should I just leave it aside in case I want to pay off straight away one day?
http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/stu...ages/loan-repayment#HowMuchWillMyRepaymentsBe

~4% of your income if you earn between 54 and 60K in income.
 

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How much is it deducted from your paycheck roughly?


I'm going to take up HECS instead of paying upfront even though I have the money to pay upfront (or a large chunk of it). But now I'm just a bit confused with what to do with this uni money. Should I just leave it aside in case I want to pay off straight away one day?
If you can't get a better return then 4% then it may well be worth paying of the debt now.
 

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When you do the calculations, as long as the interest rate you get by putting money in the bank sufficiently exceeds the indexing interest rate then you're better off deferring to HECS than getting the 10% discount when considering opportunity costs (might be a slightly different story if the discount was 20% like it was back when I started). Assuming your income grows substantially every year through career progressions, the HECS debt should be wiped off in about 10 years or so with compulsory repayments only.

However, this assumes that there will be no significant reforms to that HECS scheme for the duration of the debt. The federal government's now failed proposal a while back to change the indexation on all existing debts to the government bond rate rather than inflation was a bit of a scare because the government bond rate is generally closer to the interest rate your bank offers than the inflation rate, thereby reducing that benefit in deferring. Hopefully the HECS scheme won't change dramatically in the near future.
 

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Discount is being dropped 2017 I believe. And don't think it's as much as 10%, thought it was 5% from memory. So this year's fees would be discounted I guess? But I haven't finished my degree so not even sure if you'd get one then.
 

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But if you're not a scumbag, you'd actually pay the debt off yourself either before leaving or while working overseas.
haha i guess so, but the pollies had free uni when they were there, same with a lot of europe now so i'm just getting a free education if i do that.

That's only if you leave permanently. If you are still an Australian citizen, then even if you work overseas, you must repay as if you were living in Australia.

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/Study-and-training-support-loans/Overseas-repayments/
yup of course. cant earn over 55-60k in australia
 

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Discount is being dropped 2017 I believe. And don't think it's as much as 10%, thought it was 5% from memory. So this year's fees would be discounted I guess? But I haven't finished my degree so not even sure if you'd get one then.
This year is the last year for the 10% discount on upfront payments.

*sigh* only just become eligible, gonna be paying it back almost right away -.-"
 

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Discount is being dropped 2017 I believe. And don't think it's as much as 10%, thought it was 5% from memory. So this year's fees would be discounted I guess? But I haven't finished my degree so not even sure if you'd get one then.
10% if you pay it back now
 

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How much is it deducted from your paycheck roughly?


I'm going to take up HECS instead of paying upfront even though I have the money to pay upfront (or a large chunk of it). But now I'm just a bit confused with what to do with this uni money. Should I just leave it aside in case I want to pay off straight away one day?
you use that money to pay for your uni rent basically
 

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How much is it deducted from your paycheck roughly?


I'm going to take up HECS instead of paying upfront even though I have the money to pay upfront (or a large chunk of it). But now I'm just a bit confused with what to do with this uni money. Should I just leave it aside in case I want to pay off straight away one day?
could invest in an ETF on the ASX (very diversified), a term deposit (very poor returns currently) or ask your parents if you can pay off their mortage and receive say 1% less than their interest rate. If you have enough maybe even one of those new peer to peer lenders. But youd probably need your parents to help you out with that i think they only accept legit investors.
 
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Thanks for this link. As it`s the last discount year its tempting to try and pay up, but as writer states, I`m better off paying existing debts that incur proper interest % !!! Vote Bernie Sanders for PM
 

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