2024 HSC Chat (5 Viewers)

[spiderfan44]

isn't it on friday

idk i dont do cssa. im trying to figure out why ppl are fighting

 

[enchantedivory27]

who else not memorised quotes for religion yet

 

[spiderfan44]

private

private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them

 

[TheLastHope]

private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them

"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity

 

[spiderfan44]

"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity

the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnosises and assesments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late

‘A complex problem’: Richest schools claim most HSC disability provisions

The high cost of providing disability provisions, including up to a third of students at wealthy schools, is covered by the NSW Education Standards Authority.

www.smh.com.au

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools. this is speculation but sometimes schools encourage students to apply for provisions, even if the student doesnt require them

"private schools tend to apply for more disability provisions than public schools" Whys that out of curiosity

I think its because often the kids at private schools who are "lower support needs" for lack of a better phrase, might not have the resources to get a diagnosis at public schools due to financials, overcrowding in classrooms and not enough teachers so only the students who are significantly impacted in all aspects or "high support needs" get noticed and diagnosed thus less provisions

also the schools might not have the resources to accommodate for as many provisions at public schools due to the large amount of students

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

theres also a severe underfunding problem with public schools so they themselves cant get the resources needed

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

SOR 2 is gonna kill me not even kidding if you never hear from me again you know why

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnosises and assesments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late

‘A complex problem’: Richest schools claim most HSC disability provisions

The high cost of providing disability provisions, including up to a third of students at wealthy schools, is covered by the NSW Education Standards Authority.

www.smh.com.au

I'm surprised my school isn't higher on that list tbh (its 30 in the 30s or 40s I think), so many people at my school have provisions. fortunately we have the space and resources to accommodate for it (private school)

 

[tatijantannous]

SOR 2 is gonna kill me not even kidding if you never hear from me again you know why

same ive only memorised islam christianity and post 1945 so far

 

[DoubleTrj]

same ive only memorised islam christianity and post 1945 so far

only thing I have so far: "Do not dwell in the past, do not dream in the future."

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

im winging post 45 atp

 

[tatijantannous]

still have non-religion & r+p left but im about to fall asleep

 

[Legendary16]

Does anyone here do legal studies?

 

[yolo tengo]

what did the font on the front cover look like

it looked like an independent paper type font but faaarkkk idk if it is

 

[odpay]

the parents of private schoolers are usually rich and have money for diagnoses and assessments. sometimes the private schools will also push the students to apply for disability provisions to get an advantage i suppose, like i really doubt 1 in 3 Reddam house students really need rest breaks, but 1 in 3 get disability provisions. also public schools tend to have less resources for submitting and dealing with disability provisions, for example i go to one of the better funded public schools, but the school still turned in my disability provision application late

In recent years (POST COVID), NESA has actually been more strict on granting provisions of 'greater significance', that being: extra time to write, individual room, keyboard access, etc. This is partially due to excessive (& less genuine) applications by 'wealthier' parents and schools. This clamping down has actually been an issue for students with more genuine needs who do not have the money and/or time to bombard NESA with a plethora of psychiatric reports.

The shortage of available psychiatrists (in all of Australia) certainly doesn't help.*

However, the 1 in 3 students having provisions was mostly a phenomenon during 2020-2021, before NESA clamped down on them (as stated above). And even that was for all types of provisions (not just rest breaks), which can include anything from writers and readers, to diabetic provisions, and the 1 in 3 number was mostly a one-off from Moriah specifically. Those figures have partially reduced as of 2022, and you can view the individual application stats (categorised by respective schooling sectors) on the NSW Gov website*, where you can see that in 2022, private schools saw a percentage of fully declined applications much higher than that of government schools.

Even still, rest breaks aren't that significant of a grant considering NESA's historical (and ongoing) leniency in offering them under any of the following conditions:
(Anxiety disorder, Fatigue, Pain, Concentration difficulties (e.g. ADHD))

ADHD and Anxiety especially are on the rise in school-year children*, and having any of these - even with minimal psychiatric documentation - are essentially a guaranteed basis for obtaining rest breaks in the HSC.

I do agree that NESA's whole system is pretty flawed to begin with - especially with favouring private schools -, but UAC mostly makes up for this with their adjustment factors under EAS*, which accounts for long-term disadvantages to one's schooling (e.g. disability, low socio-economic status, financial hardship, personal events, etc.).

* links (remove space after "www."), idk why it doesn't let me hyperlink them:

www. abs.gov.au/statistics/health/health-services/patient-experiences/latest-release

www. nsw.gov.au/education-and-training/nesa/hsc/facts-and-figures/previous-years-disability-provisions

www. aihw.gov.au/reports/children-youth/australias-children/contents/health/children-mental-illness

www. uac.edu.au/future-applicants/scholarships-and-schemes/educational-access-schemes

 

[enchantedivory27]

Does anyone here do legal studies?

yeah not looking forward to crime it could be on anything so hoping the lcdmi i study is helpful. how r u going

 

[voxxel]

hello guys

 

[thelittlepotatofrog]

how did SOR go guys

i thought my questions were very good

 

[Legendary16]

yeah not looking forward to crime it could be on anything so hoping the lcdmi i study is helpful. how r u going

My trial notification specified the 15-mark would be on crime, and I guess my LCMDI should be alright for that. I'm not too keen for family law though. What are your options?