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Is it better to do commerce or economics (at UNSW) for investment banking?

also is it better to do law/com(or eco) at USYD or actuary/eco (or com) at UNSW to get into IB
 

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Is it better to do commerce or economics (at UNSW) for investment banking?

also is it better to do law/com(or eco) at USYD or actuary/eco (or com) at UNSW to get into IB
Commerce tends to be better than economics for IB. Actuary has nothing to do with investment banking - Commerce/Law is the most common IB double, but I've heard of some Comm/CS or Comm/Eng people getting in.
 

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Is it better to do commerce or economics (at UNSW) for investment banking?

also is it better to do law/com(or eco) at USYD or actuary/eco (or com) at UNSW to get into IB
comm law usyd assuming u can get the grades in the degree
Who says law is better at usyd? Heard this a fair bit but QS rankings disagrees
qs is cap quality in the cohorts should be fairly noticeable
 

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Commerce tends to be better than economics for IB. Actuary has nothing to do with investment banking - Commerce/Law is the most common IB double, but I've heard of some Comm/CS or Comm/Eng people getting in.
makes sense - I’ve put eco there with law at the moment and got the offer - but then might ask if I can transfer into BComm if I do decide to do it

about actuary having nothing to do with IB that’s true but is it good to show that I can do math?
 

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makes sense - I’ve put eco there with law at the moment and got the offer - but then might ask if I can transfer into BComm if I do decide to do it

about actuary having nothing to do with IB that’s true but is it good to show that I can do math?
IB is not anything to do with mathematics.
 

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makes sense - I’ve put eco there with law at the moment and got the offer - but then might ask if I can transfer into BComm if I do decide to do it

about actuary having nothing to do with IB that’s true but is it good to show that I can do math?
theres easier ways to show that u can do math. ib math isnt complicated its basically arithmetic.

actuarial is quite a sacrifice for proving u can do that
 

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comm law usyd assuming u can get the grades in the degree

qs is cap quality in the cohorts should be fairly noticeable
From my experience both UNSW and USYD law are both filled with the same breed of selective school npcs. The cohorts are identical. Times Higher Education also ranks UNSW higher for Law and those are the only two rankings that people cite for aussie unis because US News doesnt really have a grasp on what we do here or connections with employers here.
 

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From my experience both UNSW and USYD law are both filled with the same breed of selective school npcs. The cohorts are identical. Times Higher Education also ranks UNSW higher for Law and those are the only two rankings that people cite for aussie unis because US News doesnt really have a grasp on what we do hear or connections with employers here.
?? usyd is mostly private
 

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?? usyd is mostly private
Not in the first year law cohorts 🤣 and thats my experience. If anything, a higher concentration of private school kids would hurt the quality of the cohort compared to selective school npcs.
 

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Not in the first year law cohorts 🤣 and thats my experience. If anything, a higher concentration of private school kids would hurt the quality of the cohort compared to selective school npcs.
well my experience is otherwise
 

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well my experience is otherwise
Private school kids are not smart enough to get the 99.5 for first year law 🤣 Either way, it appears like most people agree on the standard UMelb > UNSW > USYD > ANU for Law. That being said, I don't know what kind of moron would pick UNSW Law over USYD Law when they'll have to put up with trimesters.
 

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Private school kids are not smart enough to get the 99.5 for first year law 🤣 Either way, it appears like most people agree on the standard UMelb > UNSW > USYD > ANU for Law. That being said, I don't know what kind of moron would pick UNSW Law over USYD Law when they'll have to put up with trimesters.
I’m a private school kid 👍🏼
Didn’t do LAT though so UNSW law isn’t looking great and still not sure if law is for me just getting options
 

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Private school kids are not smart enough to get the 99.5 for first year law 🤣 Either way, it appears like most people agree on the standard UMelb > UNSW > USYD > ANU for Law. That being said, I don't know what kind of moron would pick UNSW Law over USYD Law when they'll have to put up with trimesters.
grammar produces 50 of those a yr iirc. as for the standard, again rankings are bs and usyd im fairly sure holds the top spot in the sydney law market. 20/56 high court justices from usyd as opposed to 14 melb, 1 anu, 0 unsw. almost no one will say unsw > usyd
 

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grammar produces 50 of those a yr iirc. as for the standard, again rankings are bs and usyd im fairly sure holds the top spot in the sydney law market. 20/56 high court justices from usyd as opposed to 14 melb, 1 anu, 0 unsw. almost no one will say unsw > usyd
UNSW is a newer law school, hence why less high court justices are from there. They are additionally ranked higher for employment outcomes and are more likely to make it in big law. Sydney Grammar is selective private, and they act much more like selective kids than private kids. Literally every objective metric puts UNSW higher. There is zero justification for saying that USYD is better, other than the lack of trimesters which automatically makes it way better. Typical USYD student, more interested in a pretty campus than what the numbers say 🤪
 

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UNSW is a newer law school, hence why less high court justices are from there. They are additionally ranked higher for employment outcomes and are more likely to make it in big law. Sydney Grammar is selective private, and they act much more like selective kids than private kids. Literally every objective metric puts UNSW higher. There is zero justification for saying that USYD is better, other than the lack of trimesters which automatically makes it way better. Typical USYD student, more interested in a pretty campus than what the numbers say 🤪
show me the data for more likely to make it into big law. almost certainly flawed data
 

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theres easier ways to show that u can do math. ib math isnt complicated its basically arithmetic.

actuarial is quite a sacrifice for proving u can do that
About this - I would combine it with eco and gives me some math to do which I enjoy -> so let’s say I don’t do law/com USYD would actuary/comm not be next best rather soemthing like com/engineering?
 

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About this - I would combine it with eco and gives me some math to do which I enjoy -> so let’s say I don’t do law/com USYD would actuary/comm not be next best rather soemthing like com/engineering?
the eco prehons stream would defs give u a fair bit of maths to enjoy. normal econ/comm (finance) would probably be the same amount of maths —-this is regarding usyd eco/comm. (dont think unsw has a prehons stream). ye i would say actuary/comm probably > comm/engi unless u like some type of engi
 
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show me the data for more likely to make it into big law. almost certainly flawed data
Not like you'd be able to understand, can't do any maths at your humanities uni 🤣 employer reputation is a factor on both of the rankings I sent and UNSW is higher on it, by the smallest margin, something around 2%.

I also did my own research which confirmed that the comparison was mostly negligible:
I googled "Australia big law" and wrote down the firms Dentons, Allen & Overy, & Clifford Chance LLP, which are the top 3 largest law firms in Australia by revenue. I then went on Linkedin, and searched these businesses. I then went to their people section, and sorted by Australia, Legal services. This shows you the number of people who work at the business and it shows the amount that went to each uni.

I identified that on average, UNSW had approximately a little under 20% less people employed at these firms than USYD. However, UNSW also has a tiny bit over 20% fewer law students than USYD (2625 vs 3300). Now of course, if you wanted to be favourable to UNSW you could also see that UNSW has a significantly higher international student population in Law and most of those individuals go back home after study, so UNSW is actually overrepresented, but this would be slightly negligible.
 

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