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  1. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Totally agree with that, that is why I view Hamas as a terrorist organisation not a government. They deliberatly target innocent people (blombing malls, shopping centres, etc) so according to your logic and mine groups like Hezbollah and Hamas are terrorist groups...
  2. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Back to Israel and Palestine: Here is some more evidece of why the Palestinian society is so 'great' and always in the right and never advocates terrorism or matrydom. Read the whole thing (there are 2 pages after the first), it is very enlightening when we have users...
  3. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine I never said anything about land, I said that they need to recognise Israel exists and to stop calling it the Zionist entity or whatever. You can't negotiate with something that doesn't believe you exist. Compre? And about getting nothing in return, that is what...
  4. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Oh right and they're gaining so much by using violence to kill innocent people and teaching their children to hate. They stand to gain everything by following through with that. Not only will they get aid the region will have a chance for peace. Anyway, I don't see your...
  5. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine First, the Palestinians need to renounce violence and recognise that Israel exists and will always exist. Secondly they need to reform their education to take it away from Holocaust denial and being anti-semitic and encouraging violence and genocide. Then and only...
  6. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine What simplistic and stupid idea...
  7. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Stop repeating this trash, it is getting you no where and I have defeated it many times before. BTW, why do you make the point that Israel is a self confessed Jewish state, just look at every single as other Muslim country, just look at America, a predominantly...
  8. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Quite, franly it is. I have given you multiple sources and you have rejected them all. So, to any sane person you are in the wrong and have lost this debate. Good description of your arguements. Its talking about terrorist attacks dumbass. Plus what does that...
  9. Atilla89

    Torah

    Some say it is a book that our whole western civlisation is based on (ethics and morals), others use it as part of their religions and others say that it calls for the genocide of the Palestinians and Lebanese even though it says do not murder. Discuss.
  10. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine I never said anything about popular books, I said bestselling. Articles like these are unfortunitly not fraud (scholars are not bound by their country and I gave you more then one source). I am sure there is a larger American population that does that, but in terms...
  11. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine "Atilla89 claiming that Palestinians read mein kampf. (You would be surprised at the tiny minority who have read it, also you would be more surprised at the literacy rates. 60- years of oppresion and injustice would do that to a population though.)" Only a short post as...
  12. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine You implied that Israel had lost. Don't twist your words around, it was obvious what you meant. In that case you should be supporting Israel because it them who told the Lebanese civilians when and where they were going to bomb. So according to you, using...
  13. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Did you actually look at the dates Maniella? It says those 711000 were the number that left palestine between 1948-1950. Are you an idiot or something? Too late I already know the answer to that. ROFL,LMAO! You still believe that? These 'poor' Palestinians that you...
  14. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine What an utterly ridiculous statement. It's like saying I don't watch/read the news because I know better then anyone else what is happening. Were you in Lebanon at the time? Were you on the ground while the Lebanese Army conducted its operations? If no, then I suggest...
  15. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Here is an interesting article that everyone posting on this topic should read. http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=96c43ca9-ec26-470a-adda-93476ff79799 Jenin comes to Lebanon. So where is the outcry? Jonathan KayNational Post Tuesday, May 29, 2007...
  16. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine This is one of the few wars that Israel did not win. Yet Hezbollah did not win either. Both failed in their goals but if you think that Hezbollah won that war then I would hate to see what you would consider a loss. Just look at the deaths of Hezbollah and Israel and...
  17. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Haha, actually they didn't. The UN went there and tested the sites, no depleted uranium (or traces of it) were found. Like I've said earlier, do you like making up lies against Israel? So by your conditions you can't criticise Judaism (which you have many times)...
  18. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine You would know that, how? What a heartless fuck you are. You think that it is ‘understandable’ to not let these people into a country as refugees from a government that wishes to exterminate them??? I have no words to describe how disgusted I am with statement...
  19. Atilla89

    Enrol to Vote Week

    You do realise the thousands of Australian soldiers died to give you your freedom to choose your leaders? Not voting or putting down a dodge vote would be doing them a diservice.
  20. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Obviouly Maniella you did read the whole source. "The gates of Palestine remained closed for the duration of the war, stranding hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe, many of whom became victims of Hitler’s "Final Solution." After the war, the British refused to allow...
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