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  1. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine And this is why your arguements are so bad. I read your links and refute them, the least you could do is try and do the same.
  2. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine "That's is" supposed to mean that you only use that as a tool to try to blemish the people here who are against israel into silence.” Nah, see my response below. “As in basically trying to pressure those who disagree with you and who publicly express some...
  3. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Fine, lets make a deal. I use quote tags fro all my posts if you read all my posts and accept that what I write is in my own words (which it is). Deal? Do I really have to tell you how to research? You check my sources against a whole of other sources. As well as the...
  4. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine I really don't see what your problem is. You can check the sources that they use to see if the information is correct. And you know what, it is! As for Sam04U, nice extended ad hominem, your response to my arguements really enriched this thread. Keep it up!
  5. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Please stop with the lie of Israel is making Palestinians homeless. It doesn't work, the only thing that is holding them back is renouncing terrorism and not recognising Israel's right to exist. Been reading the news lately? I think it is your presious Palestinians that...
  6. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “I think you're in denial about the situation, might be cultural defence or grounded on a religious moral principal which i respect... but i don’t think your ever going to publicly admit that Israel is a source of poverty, desolation and segregation to Palestinians- even...
  7. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “It's all psychobabble really, if that's your final word on the situation (based on an outside source, without any actual arguments or points from that take on the situation, than your assertion into this thread is minimal.” Without any factual arguments? I have been...
  8. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “What has anybody in this thread said which would lead you to believe that they were Anti-Semites?” The fact that you have said Israel should not exist…That gives me a clue. “I think the majority of the people who are debating in this thread are Semites (Whether...
  9. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “dude, they feel as though they had their land stolen, you dont negotiate with your thief. if oyur home was stolen, you dont settle with having your backyard back only, you want the whole thing” …http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...ths/mf2.html#e I am going to say...
  10. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “Do you believe the Palestinians were and still are in clear and present danger after israel was created?” No they are not. They were given the chance to have a state alongside Israel, they refused for some reason…At the moment, the only people that are in danger are...
  11. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine [/FONT] Lol!!! You believe you're not an anti-semite yet your words speak the exact opposite. Do you have a split personality or something? Really you should read your own posts, because it has become quite clear just what an anti-semite you are. You can live in...
  12. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “Whoa!! Now that's even way more pathetic then you rejecting them, LMFAO. So you're practically saying that a huge movement such as the Chasidic movement is actually rejecting and not allowing the small inferior NK sect (who according to you make up less then 2% of jews...
  13. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine You really need to read the commentary of the Torah to begin to understand it. BTW, much of western law is based Torah as well as this, Christians also use the Torah as part of the New Testament, so I really don't find it that absurd. On a purely curious note, are you...
  14. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine One more thing, this is for people who believe that the Jews stole Arab land: here is the link: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf2.html#e
  15. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “What right do they have?” Ok, besides the fact that people should be allowed to live where they want, except for certain areas for security reasons (e.g. Palestinians living in Israel because of their obvious threat to security, Hamas and the like). The area that is...
  16. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine I assure they are not. But if you are going to say they are wrong, then please provide evidence. It usually helps...
  17. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “Regardless, They've lived in Europe for centuries. They have no right to come in and displace millions of Palestinians living there.” Regardless? You talk of Palestinians having a homeland in Palestine yet you wish to discount the thousands of years that the Jews have...
  18. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine European Jews have clearly come from the holy land when they left in 70CE. Happy? Yet they are still practising Jews in spite of all that. I am pretty sure you have no idea of history. Jews have had a continuous presence in Israel. NO! It doesn't. Being...
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    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine “Zionism specifically requires the Jewish state to exist in Israel. You can be anti-zionist while not being anti-Semitic.” Did you actually read what I wrote? Being anti-Zionist means being against the state and the how notion of Israel – yes it is anti-Semitic. “So...
  20. Atilla89

    Israel and Palestine

    Re: Israel & Palestine Actaully being Anti-Zionist is the same thing as being anti-semitic (JEW HATRED FOR THE IDIOTS OUT THERE). Let me clear the issue up. Zionism is the want for a homeland for the Jewish people. This was a reponse to the rampant anti-semitism in Europe and in other...
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