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question....did you also take issue with things like the money after the tsunami?

well, the one issue with that is that any statement i make in a debate is based on certain premises that i expect to be a common ground, or at least be convincing enough to be accepted as true. however, if something is based entirly on "the bible/quran/god/l. ron hubbard says this:" then its...

so burn your own flag. so long as its your property and you don't endanger anyone else, whats the big deal?

neither of those are true....while one cannot prove something does not exist, there is also no proof that a god does exist...though this is more suited for the thread about God existing. the issue at hand is that i don't think we can simply say "don't mention religion" in any given discussion...

well, it WAS the law.....so to act like it was swearing is going a bit far...and i mean, he was banned from entering the country, as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_the_elders_of_zion the only countries i can find offhand that have banned the book, though, are Austria and...

to be fair, its very hard to find anyone that really follows what they claim they follow....not just in a religious sense, either

i saw a study that did indicate smoking saves money in the u.s., at least, because people that smoke just die off faster so gov't doens't have to support them as long. don't know if this would apply for australia's health care system as well

ok....the warrant has been on him since 89.....he just avoided Austria till now.

don't knock girls taht fall under the 'nerd' catagory if you want smart. at the least, you'd need a situation other than parties, i'd think...cuz then there's a pressure that if you start talking about real subject matter, people will treat you oddly. my theory anyway.

i believe its that any time people bring up God, the debate shifts from wahtever it was before, to the existance of god, in an attempt to decide if the religious viewpoint is valid

anyone know when he was brought up on charges, exactly? was it directly after 89, or more recently?

can we get videos of just the girls? anyway, i think it more or less is just....to better control it. same way that there is still focus on medication in africa to prevent polio from spreading again

true.....also probably adding in that the religious is used as part of the justification for why they do what they do.

not-that-bright, while i agree in concpet that that'd make things easier, i don't think its a practical solution. much as you feel its not right to bring in religious beliefs, people do use those religious beliefs to help define right and wrong in their view. I don't think you can ignore that...

i think the general issue is that while not all muslims are terrorists....a majority of the terrorists are muslim

loony as he is..... he should've had a right to say it though.

thought so, but you did also question legalising it, so i didn't want to imply what i was saying was same as you... good to know that was the point you were making.

just to bring up that angle.... i think that thats dependant on a person's views, not just if its legal. i've got friends that have tried assorted drugs and found no reason to take it again. personally, i've not tried any drugs, cuz i don't want to. which is also why i don't drink or smoke. its...

so, you are saying taht you do believe alcohol should be illegal, it would just be too difficult to impliment?

wow, now that is an ironic post