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But do they live in France or Japan? Have you ever been in a foreign country and not spoken a word of the language? It's terrifying in its isolation. Living there is even more so. You might have people who speak the same language as you but you can't go out by yourself and expect to survive.

Which no one has suggested happen. It's a citizenship test, nothing to do with getting into Australia. However, it's immensely difficult for migrants to live in Australia and speak no English. Also, you have to live here for a few years to actually get citizenship and in those intervening...

Even if they're the Muslims who want to enforce Sharia law in the areas you're talking about? Is that then okay because they were born here?

Like Cosmic Doris just pointed out, most of this will be from rote memory instead of actually learning the values. Also, who cares about Don Bradman? Or what the flower is? I'm sure they're a few Australians who wouldn't know the answer to some of these questions. Like what? I'd love an...

What was wrong with the old system? What is this going to fix? That's done by becoming a citizen. You actually have to say that in the citizenship ceremony. So is this basically to stop new Australians complaining that they didn't know the law when they committed a crime? That's a...

Why have a test in the first place then? There's already quite a great deal of criteria you have to meet in the first place. If there needs to be a test, I think a more law/value based test would make sense. Australia trivia is superfluous and idiotic here. It doesn't matter if they're...

However, the stated point of the test is for people applying for citizenship to know the values of Australia. If the test doesn't do that, what's the point?

I do. It's not something that everyone in Australia is raving mad over and it doesn't define the Australian people.

Why do you have to assimilate them? I have random friends at uni who my regular uni group doesn't hang out with. Plus my uni friends and Sydney friends are pretty much completely separate. Except I think I have a problem with compartmentalising people that way.

Privilege* Passing that test is going to be a piece of cake and it's not going to require any real effort. It also doesn't demonstrate that they appreciate Australian values, just that they can pass a multiple choice test about random Australian things.

Agreed.

Really? I mean, I love them but I don't know if Stas will...

Which one is it?

Tell her you're gay. That's about it. It basically sounds like you're bored of being single which really means you want to hook up with other people which sounds like you don't really care at her at all and the only reason you made this thread is to make sure you don't look like an asshole...

Haha. Private joke.

lol, Atticus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_policy_of_Nazi_Germany It's called Google.

Agreed.

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Well, you are a naive idiot. So good luck. They're her friends. Getting an "in" with them isn't going to remedy anything. They're still going to side with her.