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Not true, I also suspect it's circular in that you'd say a 'God believer' is weak minded because they believe in god and they believe in god because they're weak minded.

You said the law says so, we pointed out the law also says a fetus is not a human life. You then proceeded to say 'which would you kill?' which doesn't even begin to satisfy the question. Not when you were never conscious enough to know of life. But you must understand, painlessness is not the...

Err try explaining that a bit further.

You have to logically explain why that distinction is greater than that between a developing fetus and a fully grown human. You can't just take it as a self-evident fact because on the whole most people will agree with you. Not at all, I still claim there's greater good done by allowing...

That statement refutes its own axioms.

The point is which would I be more right to shoot, in which case the answer (especially if we follow your idea of ignoring scientific classifications) is neither, or both equally as much. I would choose to shoot the child, but I know I'd do that because I believe my species is more special than...

True, our logic can never be known to be perfect or whatever, that'll always be a problem in all our thinking. The point is though, from what we understand, it appears to us as if it is logically impossible for something to be perfect (i.e. complete) yet still be needy. We might be wrong, but...

Yea there's the problem, what's convention? :/ Perhaps 'Less popular for being sexy, sexy people' ?

Yea but bshocs point is that such categorisations are meaningless.

No, are you saying you believe pixies exist as much as you believe god exists? If so then I have no argument with you - Go forth into your fantasy world. My point was merely that no one (including I'd suspect you) choses to believe/not believe things in a vacuum where your only influence is...

No, if she was honest with me I'd punch her in her face.

So you're willing to accept legal reasoning when it comes to saying something is human because of different genes (essentially an arbitrary decision along the genetic code) yet not accept legal reasoning on the question of when a fetus becomes a human because it's an arbitrary decision? I do...

True. But the difference is, the reason why I can't disprove God's existance is the same reason why I can't disprove the existance of fairies, zeus, pixies, whatever. Not really... I'm sure there'll be justifications for your beliefs somewhere along the line. "By faith" simply isn't good...

I don't. But my point wasn't really about merely a majority, more that if more pain was caused by allowing abortions than banning them (something I can't see as being true) then I would support banning abortions. The only slightly realistic scenario I could think of that would change this...

I didn't just say for an individual. I fear if I was killed in such a way others may be upset for me, society at large may also find the act cruel and be upset by it. Meanwhile in the face of this there's no immediately obvious redeeming features. If Australian society as a whole found...

You misunderstand what apologetics means. I could easily be described as an atheist apologetic when my beliefs are comming under scrutiny. I'd only do their arguments injustice as I don't favor them. Read about it yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell_in_Christianity They all have...

It's not the age of the fetus that bothers me so much as the overall pain. I feel our society is much better off allowing abortions to occur in the first trimester, the creature never faces existance, experiences no suffering and for the most part is uncared for by the majority of the...

I wouldn't define someone as stupid for believing something 'without definitie proof', I'd merely call them a hypocrit for applying a different standard of acceptable proof to one thing and not to another. Before I properly respond... are you serious?

I do believe there is some christian apologetics on the topic as to explain what about those whom never learn of jesus's prophesy, unfortunately I cannot remember even the gist of some off the top of my head. Perhaps everyone knew jesus before the time of his existance/crucifixion (which makes...

I've never advocated abortion that far into pregnancy.