Groucho Marxist
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good player =/= good captain
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whatashotbyseve
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Lol I knew that was a fallacy, I was really clutching at straws.
It is a subjective question which I tried to look at objectively and failed.
It is a subjective question which I tried to look at objectively and failed.
Izzay
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when i said walcott, i was just having a kiddy cat rat...
but you're not joking when you say rooney, are you?
but now that you mentioned it, word on the street is emile heskey is up for contention or if stewart downing can maintain form for m'brgh, he might get a chance also.
how good was aston villas fuck up this morning
'the future looks bright, the future's red and white'
Izzay
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agreed.
whatashotbyseve
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Arsenal are morals for the fourth CL spot. This has been a bigger choke by Villa than Spurs a couple of years ago. And Villa haven't had their food poisoned yet as far as I know.
Izzay
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fool should have thought twice before he threw the UEFA cup and FA cup in quick succession.
now they eat dirt.
lets hope this doesnt come back to bite me...
even if it does, i dont think ill have a forum full of liverpool fans grilling me alive.
now they eat dirt.
lets hope this doesnt come back to bite me...
even if it does, i dont think ill have a forum full of liverpool fans grilling me alive.
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Rooney isn't as bad as some people are making out.
People often think he has a huge bad patch then a few weeks of greatness, but its often due to injuries. He's probably not as good as some of the media reckon, be hes english, so overhype is to be expected.
People often think he has a huge bad patch then a few weeks of greatness, but its often due to injuries. He's probably not as good as some of the media reckon, be hes english, so overhype is to be expected.
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What does german have to do with being a good captain?
if everyone thinks hes a cunt, their is going to be disharmony in the change room thus he would not make a good captain.
If chelsea were to have a new captain their would be little question it would be lampard.
Izzay
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I don't know whether anyone else was disputing whether he is a good player or not, as, i for one believe he is pretty top-notch.
But a captain? pa-leeez.
the guy is way too much of a hot-head.
i'll probably get a heap of united players saying "ohh nah..but...it's passion"
it's not. he has got anger and temper issues, no doubt about it.
he reminds me of mike tyson in this clip.
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i disagree with the maturity part. did you see him in the liverpool game? he is the last person id make captain
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Regardless of what all you guys think...Rooney will be a future England and Manchester United captain and both teams will greatly benefit from his leadership. Also, even though the press may hype up Wayne Rooney a tad...he is still England's best young talent and if you watch Manchester United play each week as I do...you would see that he is a very consistent player. He does alot more for the team than just score goals.
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matt#1
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I know that great players do not necessarily make the best captains. I was just talking about Rooney's quality in response to all those people saying that he is 'overrated' and that he goes through "patches" of good and bad form all the time. Whilst I will agree to some extent that Rooney sometimes goes through patches where he dosen't score too many goals...the overall quality of his contribution to the team is consistently outstanding.
Rooney's exceptional talent is just one of many reasons why he will be a future Man United and England captain. He will be around for a long time to come, already has loads of experience despite his young age, he has the necessary passion and committment and is a great player to build any team around.
whatashotbyseve
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He may become captain of England, but I doubt Utd. Not as long as Fergie is there anyway. I know some people have made comparisons to Keane in the hotheaded stakes, but Keane was able to channel his aggression. And he knew his squad had his ultimate respect. In many ways, Keane was the perfect captain.
England have a long and distinguished record of appointing captains who are wrong for the job. Rooney is odds on to get it one day then.
England have a long and distinguished record of appointing captains who are wrong for the job. Rooney is odds on to get it one day then.
matt#1
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I disagree. He will definitely also captain Man United.
Whether Rooney will be wrong for the England captaincy job is yet to be determined. You can't simply dismiss him based on the performance of past captains. We will have to wait and see.
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...And I am saying that there are just as many reasons in favour of him being very suitable for such a role. Anyway, until that time comes I believe the captain should be Steven Gerrard.
whatashotbyseve
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Can we make sure Rooney is in charge by the World Cup next year? Nothing would give me greater pleasure than watching England self-destruct.