2013 Federal election (2 Viewers)

[Rafy]

Nielsen poll. Ouch.

 

[Lolsmith]

Would it be completely inappropriate to suggest that what we're seeing over the last few weeks is polling returning to normal as the memory of Gillard's father begins to fade from the public consciousness?

I think that was gone a while ago

 

[Lolsmith]

If you say so.

It's not like Labor haven't been slogged with misfortune (for them at least) over the summer. It doesn't exactly make them appear competent if a couple of ministers quit in an election year (couldn't wait 6 months?), they can't keep their promises and the policies they've implemented are falling short of expectations.

Do voters actually sympathise with this kind of stuff enough to reflect in polls?

 

[will90211]

Her father? Oh please. The very mention of that just lost you some respect Lentern

 

[will90211]

Oh sure it occupied the news cycle for a max of 3 days , but it was never significant or even name worthy as a positive factor for her in the polls. I haven't heard anything of the sought from the commentariat. It's not like it was the whole Hawkes daughter thing all over again.

 

[will90211]

And look what that did to her? That Speech started a recovery as we all know. The election announcement was supposed to build on their positive polling and to bring fresh air into the debate, to forge a clean slate. Then, we all know what happened next.
Sure, to the average disinterested voter that may have lifted their spirits... 'finally a pollie with a bit of 'get up and go' but to those who were watching closely it was just a reactionary speech mired in hypocrisy. If Gillards polling was better now, we can certainly say that that speech was the catalyst for a labor bounce but it's not. No matter how much emotion a pollie shows, how much zest for proper policy if they make political mistakes and the opposition comes down on them then it counts for nothing, because political mistakes and be blown up to huge proportions (queue: Minister resign), of course stirred along by an unhelpful msn.

As a student of history I know the importance of context. When Gillards history is written by the winners context will trump the emotion and gravitas Gillard displayed during her speech.

EDIT: This wouldn't be you by the way...? https://twitter.com/Nlentern

 

[will90211]

Explain

 

[will90211]

I'm saying that her Fathers death had nothing to do with it. The Speech was used as a stop gap - purely for political purposes to get the pressure of her for defending Slipper. Gillard did not go into the speech because Abbott said 'Died of shame' (He'd said it 17 times before the speech)... I don't think the public were at all concerned about her Fathers death, there were no stories of 'outpouring of public grief for the PM' for example... Abbott did not mention her Father at all.

 

[funkshen]

i for one am exicted about our first socialist prime minister since whitlam

 

[Okashi]

men are better than women, T abz simply making an observation

also lol at liberal stooge vs. labor stooge

The liberal stooge seems to be winning.

 

[Okashi]

i for one am exicted about our first socialist prime minister since whitlam

What the hell?

 

[funkshen]

What the hell?

are you daft boy?

 

[Okashi]

are you daft boy?

Are you trying to imply that abbott is a socialist?

 

[Lolsmith]

Are you trying to imply that abbott is a socialist?

No implication at all:

comrade abbott is the biggest socialist in parliament. that's a promise.

 

[Okashi]

No implication at all:

Absolute nuts... The left is going wild..

 

[Lolsmith]

funkshen is not even remotely left and the fact that you think a leftist would consider Tony Abbott a socialist speaks volumes about you

 

[funkshen]

tony abbott's nationalsozialistiche australier arbeiterpartei

okashi your liberal crocodile tears are delicious

 

[SylviaB]

tony abbott's nationalsozialistiche australier arbeiterpartei

dont flatter him

 

[funkshen]

dont flatter him

how about abbotts-jugend?

 

[will90211]

Godwins Law...