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2013 Federal Election: 2PP Voting Intention

  • Liberal / National Coalition

    Votes: 101 50.0%

  • Australian Labor Party

    Votes: 101 50.0%
  • Total voters
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Okashi said:
Your point? The National Socialist Germans Workers Party. Combining the nationalism of the right and socialism of the left.
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I was trying to point out that using "left" and "right" labels is fucking lazy and a false dichotomy that too many idiots pay attention to.
 
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Lolsmith said:
I was trying to point out that using "left" and "right" labels is fucking lazy and a false dichotomy that too many idiots pay attention to.
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Not lazy just common language. Sathius was saying that the Greens are a centrist party. But how can they be when they support a world one government. Left and right are clearly defined and there is no mistake in which category to put the Greens into.
 
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I want to speak from my heart. I want to speak about the Australian Labor Party’s values and vision for the country. We the Labor Party have done too much that is good and vital in these last six years to be swept aside. We have so much to do such as the National Broadband Network to wire our citizens to the world of opportunity and technological innovation. Furthermore, the Australian Labor Party is committed to locking in the Fair Work Act 2009 to secure a fair go for wages and worker rights so that we never see an attack on Worker rights like Work Choices.
 
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I watched the soap opera of the Coalition it was so comical it was a tragedy. Words cannot adequately describe the disaster that is the Abbott Opposition. Tony Abbott opposed the Gonski educational reforms to help high school students from disadvantaged backgrounds and disadvantaged schools and students who struggle with basic education (such as due to Educational Mental Retardation). Tony Abbott wants to cut the National Broadband Network. Reinstate elements of Work Choices and upgrade it to cut the pay and conditions of ordinary workers.
 
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Sathius005 said:
I watched the soap opera of the Coalition it was so comical it was a tragedy. Words cannot adequately describe the disaster that is the Abbott Opposition. Tony Abbott opposed the Gonski educational reforms to help high school students from disadvantaged backgrounds and disadvantaged schools and students who struggle with basic education (such as due to Educational Mental Retardation). Tony Abbott wants to cut the National Broadband Network. Reinstate elements of Work Choices and upgrade it to cut the pay and conditions of ordinary workers.
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So you continue on with your rhetoric and seem to be unable to refute anything I have said earlier. So I win..
Abbott is not implementing Gonski because we don't have the money. Labor says they are going to implement Gonski but haven't told how they are going to fund it. It is very unlikely that they are going to fund what was outlined in the Gonski report and that is 6.5 billion dollars over four years. The Coalition has said that the Gonski report was a fine piece of work so there's bipartisanship for that but mate the money isn't there.

The Coalition is not cutting the NBN you retard. Do you even watch the news? It's fibre to the node with all projects that have already been contracted will continue over the full term.

Where in hell do you seem to be getting this Workchoices thing from? That's right no evidence. The Fair Work Act rolled our IR laws all the way back before keating. The balance has gone all the way to the workers. Now put yourself in the shoes of a small business who fear hiring employees because of the current state of the unfair dismissal laws which makes it very hard to sack troublesome workers. And you say that Workchoices will cut the pay and conditions of workers. Well listen to this mate , a qantas baggage handler gets paid 70,000-85,000 dollars which is higher than the highest classified teacher in NSW below the position of head teacher. This is what unions have done to our national airline demanding higher wages for lower productivity. They get paid 12 percent more than their Virgin counterparts and demand pay rises and job security. What a joke. And let me tell you something there will be no jobs left when unions drag businesses to the ground with lower productivity , higher wages and there will be no jobs left because businesses become internationally uncompetitive.

So you can't provide evidence to back up any of your points. You like the party you represent are a joke to the country. Words cannot describe the disaster that is the Gillard Government which has been leaking from day one.
 
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Okashi mate wake up you. You know that you have lost the argument when you resort to name calling like the word "retard." Gillard and Rudd prevented Australia from going in to Recession. Peter Costello says that Labor did the right thing to have a strategic plan of budget deficits over the medium term to stimulate the Australian economy at a time of Global Recession and huge instability within the International Financial System. Costello attacked the Coalition strategy of ostrich economics (put your head in the sand and ignore the key challenges that the world is confronting). You are a just another Liberal stooge who wants to get on bended knees to the billionaires. How pathetic can you get, just when you could stoop no lower. Attacking the most vulnerable members of our society such as disadvantaged high school students and pensioners is what is fair game for Okashi.
 
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Okashi is full of lies. The NBN will be gone if the Coalition gets in. There is no bipartisan consensus on the NBN. The Coalition hates the NBN.
 
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Sathius005 said:
Okashi mate wake up you. You know that you have lost the argument when you resort to name calling like the word "retard." Gillard and Rudd prevented Australia from going in to Recession. Peter Costello says that Labor did the right thing to have a strategic plan of budget deficits over the medium term to stimulate the Australian economy at a time of Global Recession and huge instability within the International Financial System. Costello attacked the Coalition strategy of ostrich economics (put your head in the sand and ignore the key challenges that the world is confronting). You are a just another Liberal stooge who wants to get on bended knees to the billionaires. How pathetic can you get, just when you could stoop no lower. Attacking the most vulnerable members of our society such as disadvantaged high school students and pensioners is what is fair game for Okashi.
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Retard = slow. You haven't been reading. What we have seen from Labor is reckless spending. just because we had the GFC doesn't mean we can recklessly spend money on pink batts and overpriced school halls.

Peter Costello said sustained deficits over the medium term is alright. But that is not what the government is doing.
http://m.smh.com.au/opinion/politic...with-swans-tiny-surpluses-20121023-283cp.html

And give me evidence on this ostrich economics.
And Labor is attacking pensioners with the carbon tax not the coalition.
Who says Labor is implementing Gonski in full? That's right mate.. Rhetoric is all that you stand on and once again another post with no evidence at all.
 
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Labor and liberal are both bad, I'm choosing not to vote.m
 
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Okashi said:
True. But you should choose liberal. The best of the bad lot.
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You should vote 1.Greens and 2. Labor and protest against Labor's massive lurch to the right.
 
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I'm voting Liberal Democratic because I love freedom.
 
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Okashi said:
Good on you. The left only wants control.
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the right only wants control too. the only difference is the LDP are bound by their policy prescriptions to give a lot of the powers and capacities of the federal government up.
 
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