berghousemaa
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My word you're a freak.Phanatical said:Standing by and allowing an abortion to happen is tantamount to aiding and abetting murder. That's the reality of it.
My word you're a freak.Phanatical said:Standing by and allowing an abortion to happen is tantamount to aiding and abetting murder. That's the reality of it.
conservatism breeds many, many freaks.berghousemaa said:My word you're a freak.
katie_tully said:Seriously, it is beyond my comprehension how people percieve abortion.
It bewilders me even more that people put it down to irresponsible women not having protected sex, considering women with their tubes tied have often become pregnant.
It's further beyond my grasp as to why people have the audacity to say who is right and who is wrong when it comes to their own body, and their own life.
What really confuses me is that some people are under the impression their views are more correct than others, on a topic that, unless faced with this particular situation, does not concern them.
You don't believe in abortion? Good. Don't have one.
Don't dare criticise those who do, or feel that it is any of your business as to why people choose to have an abortion.
Definately do not feel you have the right to assume people who have an abortion are doing it lightly, and do not consider all the consequences.
Have you read some of his previous posts?Philomena_86 said:they are not a freak if they believe its murder. You are telling the opponents of abortion to lesson to your opinion yet when they give u their's u call them a freak?
another thing about the male politicians all trying to push the abortion debate is because males can be affected by abortions also so stop getting mad at them for caring it takes two to tango
Asquithian if u do remember, one girl on the forum who said she did have an abortion said it was incredibly easy, no pain at all.Asquithian said:There was a very large thread on this a while back.
Abortion should not result in legal penalities if done within a humane period of time. There are so many policy issues that rally for abortion.
I find that those who oppose abortion exaggerate the negatives of the system and start quoting the bible - often suggesting that women treat abortion lightly or as some kind of contraception. Such an attitude only serves to illustrate total ignorance as well as a generalist and inaccurate view that the attitudes of the majority of women. Since the process of abortion is no where near as easy to taking a panadol (as one forum member here suggested)
Additionally abortion is based on sound legal grounds.
First off maybe our compassion is directed more towards the potential mother than an unborn foetusPhanatical said:How can anybody here criticise anybody for their compassion towards the Life that has been created? An unborn foetus IS a human life, with the potential to grow, and abortion is very much the murder of human life. What's the difference between aborting in the first trimester and the fiftieth trimester of life? What's the difference between murder of an unborn child, and a 20 year old? Should a mother claim abortion as a legal defence to murdering her 10 year old son?
those are the wisest words I have heard regarding this debate.katie_tully said:Seriously, it is beyond my comprehension how people percieve abortion.
It bewilders me even more that people put it down to irresponsible women not having protected sex, considering women with their tubes tied have often become pregnant.
It's further beyond my grasp as to why people have the audacity to say who is right and who is wrong when it comes to their own body, and their own life.
What really confuses me is that some people are under the impression their views are more correct than others, on a topic that, unless faced with this particular situation, does not concern them.
You don't believe in abortion? Good. Don't have one.
Don't dare criticise those who do, or feel that it is any of your business as to why people choose to have an abortion.
Definately do not feel you have the right to assume people who have an abortion are doing it lightly, and do not consider all the consequences.
the child is UNBORN and usually not even starting to develop yet. You've answered ur own question. there's a lot of difference...one is born and has been living for 20 yrs...the other has not even taken a breath by it's self.Phanatical said:What's the difference between murder of an unborn child, and a 20 year old?
i dont believe it possesses a soul until it actually begins to full develop and become a featus. While it is an embryo, i dont believe it is a human life. And no, ur not a murderer everytime u masturbate.berghousemaa said:What makes an unborn foetus a human life? Does it posses a soul or any other religious spin on the collective spirit of mankind that connects it with manknid as we know it or is it merely the potential to grow into what we know as humans.
Is it only the lack of pain thta makes you believe it is acceptable?.Not-That-Bright said:berghousemaa, an unborn foetus.... has human dna it is a human, the question is wether it is living... now they move around alot, they look a decent ammount like a human, and studies have shown heart-rate accellerations before abortions are carried out (fear?).
It is most definately a human life, however as it doesn't yet feel pain I believe it is fair enough that mothers have the right to determine its fate.
Exactly right. Has anybody seen Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Out of all movies I think this deals with abortion the best.Not-That-Bright said:yea i agree with you, it's necessary.
however i think further education, releasing statistics to the public would be good..
Yet, you neglect to mention that as a fetus, up until 30 weeks, it cannot survive outside of the mothers womb, and only then can it survive under constant medical treatment.Because both a sperm and an egg are in fact incomplete halves of a human genome, they don't form life. That's why it's not murder every time a man has sex, masturbates or has a wet dream, or a woman ovulates once a month - because the genetic material is not in a state of growth. Once the sperm has fertilised the egg, however, it begins to develop into sentient life, and will continue to develop until the day it dies, hopefully as an old person. This is a simple biological fact, which every person here should have studied in junior school science.