Australia MIGHT go into a recession (1 Viewer)

[its_ace21]

Both sides are equally awful.

be so fr rn

maybe if the genocide was happening in Europe u would've been caring

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

Both sides are equally awful. I know it sounds heartless, but people killing each other in the Middle East isnt something I particularly care about, it's just another day in that part of the world.

yeah same i just forget that half the world is dying, kids and all too cos their middle eastern. pass me some beer

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

Comparison, not absolute. I didnt say Australia doesnt have those things, Im saying relative to other countries we do quite well.

babe. im not even middle eastern and i still know more things then you'll ever claim about them. Sylvia Juniour at this point lmfao >33

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

I didnt say Australia doesnt have those things,

no they dont. they just have people like you

 

[Tony Stark]

be so fr rn

maybe if the genocide was happening in Europe u would've been caring

Russia Vs Ukraine literally millions of dollars sent by Australia, America, U.N action and all that

 

[jane1820]

Russia Vs Ukraine literally millions of dollars sent by Australia, America, U.N action and all that

and they all supported ukraine bc it was getting bombed and targeted unlike palestine which is also getting bombed and targeted

people do not understand that russia vs ukraine IS NOT THE SAME as israel vs palestine or north korea vs south
u cant keep comapring
its like comparing bromine and mercury: both are liquid, both are elements but one is metal and non metal (not my best example but i hope the point is clear)

 

[Shavi Masee]

Both sides are equally awful. I know it sounds heartless, but people killing each other in the Middle East isnt something I particularly care about, it's just another day in that part of the world.

just a heads up: I dk what the context of this conversation is. I also don't really have a say in this, as i'm not informed of why or what is happening in any of these countries.

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I understood ur pov of most things you've said before, but this is just a big no. "Killing each other" can never be justified.



You ARE being heartless when you say that, wdym by "it isn't something I particularly care about" and "just another day in that part of the world," people are dying everywhere...

do you not care abt the children who can't achieve there dreams? the men, women and children who die protecting their country that are sometimes forced to do so? the lives and families of which are torn apart? The blood spread on the earth where once beautiful stories have been? the cries of a parent losing their children? the lost lives and stories people will never know?

OR do you only care abt people who live in countries you want to care abt?

This isn't just in the countries you're referencing, it's all around the world. Caring abt people only living in "certain" countries is pretty damn messed up. Your selective sympathy is basically reinforcing inequality.




If i said anything wrong i apologise, it just didn't sit right with how you phrased "just another day in that part of the world," pls have some sympathy.

 

[enoilgam]

I understood ur pov of most things you've said before, but this is just a big no. "Killing each other" can never be justified.

You ARE being heartless when you say that, wdym by "it isn't something I particularly care about" and "just another day in that part of the world," people are dying everywhere...

do you not care abt the children who can't achieve there dreams? the men, women and children who die protecting their country that are sometimes forced to do so? the lives and families of which are torn apart? The blood spread on the earth where once beautiful stories have been? the cries of a parent losing their children? the lost lives and stories people will never know?

OR do you only care abt people who live in countries you want to care abt?

This isn't just in the countries you're referencing, it's all around the world. Caring abt people only living in "certain" countries is pretty damn messed up. Your selective sympathy is basically reinforcing inequality.

If i said anything wrong i apologise, it just didn't sit right with how you phrased "just another day in that part of the world," pls have some sympathy.

I stand by my view, both Palestine and Israel are equally awful and neither side can claim the moral high ground. I feel bad for the people who live there and both sides have been screwed (I blame the British and French for starting this in WW1). But ultimately, unless both sides compromise the fighting will continue. There are only so many things one can devote their energy to in life and I cant be bothered with a place that just constantly seems to be at war.

babe. im not even middle eastern and i still know more things then you'll ever claim about them. Sylvia Juniour at this point lmfao >33

Sylvia is straight right wing. Im a centrist and form my own positions, I support a variety of left and right wing causes.

 

[enoilgam]

I will say I am sick of the constant "anti-semitism" articles I keep seeing in goodness knows how many right wing papers. Like, why is this a constant issue I keep hearing about in Australia? People have a right to protest against Israel without being racist, ditto for those doing the same against Palestine. I just dont know why this issue causes so much drama...in Australia.

 

[enoilgam]

babe. im not even middle eastern and i still know more things then you'll ever claim about them. Sylvia Juniour at this point lmfao >33

Also on this, my animus isnt directed towards Islam specifically, I deplore religious fundamentalism and the intrusion of religion into public life. As much as I dislike how Islam is practiced in parts of the word, even moreso I despise how Christianity is practiced in the Southern United States. It's the main reason that even as a swing voter, I would never vote for the Republican party in the US (assuming I was a citizen) because of how if has been infiltrated by religious fundamentalists who have perverted a religion to justify their selfish world view.

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

Also on this, my animus isnt directed towards Islam specifically, I deplore religious fundamentalism and the intrusion of religion into public life. As much as I dislike how Islam is practiced in parts of the word, even moreso I despise how Christianity is practiced in the Southern United States. It's the main reason that even as a swing voter, I would never vote for the Republican party in the US (assuming I was a citizen) because of how if has been infiltrated by religious fundamentalists who have perverted a religion to justify their selfish world view.

our society is endemically humanist, and despite agreeing on 1/2 of what uve said, imo what ur saying would only make sense if we didn't have a society that was as much secular as religious - I feel like your animosty towards certain religons is configuring largely how you veiw the political scheme of things

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

I stand by my view, both Palestine and Israel are equally awful and neither side can claim the moral high ground. I feel bad for the people who live there and both sides have been screwed (I blame the British and French for starting this in WW1). But ultimately, unless both sides compromise the fighting will continue. There are only so many things one can devote their energy to in life and I cant be bothered with a place that just constantly seems to be at war.



Sylvia is straight right wing. Im a centrist and form my own positions, I support a variety of left and right wing causes.

Yes but there's inconsistency in ur schema. There's Trump threatening to export back all Palestinians etc etc, and just like your political/worldviews are very skewed its only because of the discourse you've allowed to be built around it. ie- arabs are villans, australia isn't racist, etc and thats why theres still war because so many people just submit to one saturated veiw

 

[hotitalian]

Yes but there's inconsistency in ur schema. There's Trump threatening to export back all Palestinians etc etc, and just like your political/worldviews are very skewed its only because of the discourse you've allowed to be built around it. ie- arabs are villans, australia isn't racist, etc and thats why theres still war because so many people just submit to one saturated veiw

fight me bitch

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

fight me bitch

who u calling a bitch? im male

 

[enoilgam]

our society is endemically humanist, and despite agreeing on 1/2 of what uve said, imo what ur saying would only make sense if we didn't have a society that was as much secular as religious - I feel like your animosty towards certain religons is configuring largely how you veiw the political scheme of things

Yes but there's inconsistency in ur schema. There's Trump threatening to export back all Palestinians etc etc, and just like your political/worldviews are very skewed its only because of the discourse you've allowed to be built around it. ie- arabs are villans, australia isn't racist, etc and thats why theres still war because so many people just submit to one saturated veiw

It's interesting because right wing conservative Christians (esp in the United States) strong dislike fundamentalist/conservative Islam (the opposite is also true)- but really they are essentially the same thing and have a great deal in common with each other. Both discriminate against women, LGBT people, vulnerable people and foreigners. To me they each represent a gross distortion of something benevolent - I dislike both. I dont mind religion, but I dont like when religion is used as a sword to justify all manner of shitty behaviour. I also dont like people justifying their bad behaviour by appealing to an unseen deity who can never validate/repudiate the behaviour (i.e. it's Allah's/God's will). Id argue my view is consistent.

 

[jane1820]

Both discriminate against women, LGBT people, vulnerable people and foreigners.

proof? n i mean religious proof not cultural proof for both religions

also how about buddhism, hinduism, judaism etc? or r u targeted towards muslims/christians

 

[MoeyNeeds90+]

It's interesting because right wing conservative Christians (esp in the United States) strong dislike fundamentalist/conservative Islam (the opposite is also true)- but really they are essentially the same thing and have a great deal in common with each other. Both discriminate against women, LGBT people, vulnerable people and foreigners. To me they each represent a gross distortion of something benevolent - I dislike both. I dont mind religion, but I dont like when religion is used as a sword to justify all manner of shitty behaviour. Id argue my view is consistent.

Religion only feels like a sword to you because its not the viewpoint or ideology you align with thats just how humans are made. Your arguments is consistent and has been, however its inconsistent when you suddenly change from saying you could care less about people being killed in one place, the justifying it with a contradicting argument - imo it just shows ur sensitive to it.

 

[enoilgam]

proof? n i mean religious proof not cultural proof for both religions

also how about buddhism, hinduism, judaism etc? or r u targeted towards muslims/christians

It's not the religions themselves but the way they are practiced that I object to - I think Islam and Christianity are wonderful religions. I object to how they are practiced.

 

[Socialism]

DAMN imagine showing this calm and thoughtful conversation to mid 2010s BoS users this is actually insane

 

[Socialism]

i'm sure enoilgam has seen a few interesting "does god exist" type threads in his time LMAO i know i have and my account is less than a year old

(i basically quit necroposting sorry yall)