Australian Politics (3 Viewers)

[funkshen]

nope

 

[Rafy]

Andrew Wilkie has withdrawn his support for the government.

Back to a one seat margin.

 

[Lentern]

"I will only support motions of no confidence in the event of serious misconduct and not support politically opportunistic motions."

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT]http://www.news.com.au/national/and...rd/story-e6frfkvr-1226250097725#ixzz1k4PulDwr

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Presumably that was always the case though, I don't think his support, or indeed that of Oakeshott, Bandt and Windsor has ever been unconditional in cases of serious misconduct. Also he's ruled out supporting Tony Abbott so it's not so much down to one vote, it's effectively 76-73 instead of 77-73 now. Nonetheless very disapointing to see Oakeshott torpedo the reform like this, up until now he's struck me as a pretty fair dinkum. [/FONT]​

 

[funkshen]

if the trial goes ahead and is considered effective, mandatory precommitment is likely to be introduced and in a more feasible time period
if the trial goes goes ahead and precommitment is not shown to be effective then it will be rightly scrapped

seems like this evidence based approach is the way to go. whats the fuss? are people concerned about interested parties sabotaging the trial? or it get getting bogged down in a bureaucratic bayou? or subject to a change in political winds?

the $250 max withdrawal from ATMs at gaming venues seems like shit policy though

 

[Lentern]

if the trial goes ahead and is considered effective, mandatory precommitment is likely to be introduced and in a more feasible time period
if the trial goes goes ahead and precommitment is not shown to be effective then it will be rightly scrapped

seems like this evidence based approach is the way to go. whats the fuss? are people concerned about interested parties sabotaging the trial? or it get getting bogged down in a bureaucratic bayou? or subject to a change in political winds?

the $250 max withdrawal from ATMs at gaming venues seems like shit policy though

This government may not be around to introduce it in a "more feasible time period."

 

[funkshen]

This government may not be around to introduce it in a "more feasible time period."

so what you're saying is, the government doesn't have enough time to introduce legislation that The People don't want

 

[Lentern]

so what you're saying is, the government doesn't have enough time to introduce legislation that The People don't want

I'm saying Andrew Wilkie had a limmited window of opportunity to implement a policy which is overwhelmingly supported by the people who elected him.

And what do you mean people don't want, it polls at roughly 60-40 dunnit?

 

[funkshen]

I'm saying Andrew Wilkie had a limmited window of opportunity to implement a policy which is overwhelmingly supported by the people who elected him.

And what do you mean people don't want, it polls at roughly 60-40 dunnit?

so why doesn't julia gillard support the proposal, or rather, why does she say wilkie 'doesn't have the numbers'? could it be that they're not acting in the interests of their constituents, or rather, in consideration of particular constituents who oppose this legislation?

you could argue that if the proposed trial of the technology produces good outcomes, it might make it MORE likely that any future government would implement it, considering the evidence isn't partisan.

 

[Chemical Ali]

I wonder how much slipper got from the gaming industry

just hypothetically

 

[Rafy]

Mandatory pre commitment is dead no matter what the trial shows. The next parliament is likely to deliver a majority government and no majority government would implement it.

 

[funkshen]

I wonder how much slipper got from the gaming industry

just hypothetically

they slipped him a twenty

 

[Lentern]

Mandatory pre commitment is dead no matter what the trial shows. The next parliament is likely to deliver a majority government and no majority government would implement it.

Because?

 

[hayabusaboston]

This government may not be around to introduce it in a "more feasible time period."

http://www.jewelsdiva.com.au/2011/03/julia-gillard-declares-signs-grossly.html

lol

 

[Chemical Ali]

Because?

because it won't work, but will hurt

 

[Lentern]

because it won't work, but will hurt

Much like temporary protection visas.

 

[Garygaz]

Much like temporary protection visas.

arm chair australians care about the refugee issue 100x more than they do about problem gamblers

 

[Lentern]

arm chair australians care about the refugee issue 100x more than they do about problem gamblers

I agree, and as such a gubment probably wouldn't have any major fears about a voter backlash despite the huff and puff of the gaming industry.

 

[Garygaz]

that's presupposing that governments/politicians are actually pro-active and not trying to prolong their pay-checks by doing nothing controversial

 

[Chemical Ali]

Much like temporary protection visas.

Well you won't need to worry about those anymore now that glorious leader Abbott is going to have the people's Navy drag all of the boats back to Indonesia, a much more compassionate one than Gillard's policy which has lured 600 to their deaths

 

[Lentern]

Well you won't need to worry about those anymore now that glorious leader Abbott is going to have the people's Navy drag all of the boats back to Indonesia, a much more compassionate one than Gillard's policy which has lured 600 to their deaths

Where will the boat go when Indonesia refuses to let it dock, as the Indonesian government has repeatedly said it would, as our department of Immigration has said is likely to occur?