bush's humility (2 Viewers)

[neo o]

well from what i remember, the asian crisis occured from i think raising (might of been lowering) the national currency's value, then all this shit happened and they had the asian financial crisis

The asian crisis was caused by speculators withdrawing funds from Thailand because of what they perceived as an unsustainable CAD, which spread like SARS to a number of other Asian economies.

When speculators withdraw money, the value of the currency would naturally depreciate, however the Asian banks maintained a pegged rate, meaning that they maintained currency values by buying or selling their currency. To maintain the value of their currency in the Asian crisis, they needed to buy their currency on world markets with foreign currencies, however it was such a large devaluation that they didn't have the foreign currency reserves to buy up their currencies, and as such had to float.

A floated currency is beneficial, since it reflects both supply and demand for the currency, all developed countries have floated currencies, with a few countries like China maintaining pegged rates to keep their export prices low.

All in all, it was a move they had to make, and a good move anyway.

there still people....and are you familiar with the universality of human rights...they are shared by everybody, no one has more rights than the other, no one has less rights than the other, no matter what age, race etc as long as they are human..

Please answer my question, are you pro-abortion?

 

[hiphophorray123]

The asian crisis was caused by speculators withdrawing funds from Thailand because of what they perceived as an unsustainable CAD, which spread like SARS to a number of other Asian economies.

When speculators withdraw money, the value of the currency would naturally depreciate, however the Asian banks maintained a pegged rate, meaning that they maintained currency values by buying or selling their currency. To maintain the value of their currency in the Asian crisis, they needed to buy their currency on world markets with foreign currencies, however it was such a large devaluation that they didn't have the foreign currency reserves to buy up their currencies, and as such had to float.

A floated currency is beneficial, since it reflects both supply and demand for the currency, all developed countries have floated currencies, with a few countries like China maintaining pegged rates to keep their export prices low.

All in all, it was a move they had to make, and a good move anyway.



Please answer my question, are you pro-abortion?

im a bit divided on that issue...i am mostly pro-abortion...but im still questioning my stance on 'what about rape victims'

i was taught that the asian government first made the decision to raise the dollar which caused inverstors to pull out etc

 

[neo o]

im a bit divided on that issue...i am mostly pro-abortion...but im still questioning my stance on 'what about rape victims'

i was taught that the asian government first made the decision to raise the dollar which caused inverstors to pull out etc

1) In this post you seem to be against the idea of governments raising the value of a currency, yet this is the opposite to what you railed against earlier (the float) which is where market forces determine currency values.

2) In layman's terms they pulled out of Thailand because of what they saw as unsustainable foreign debt. Herd mentality led to similar events throughout the region.

3) If you believe every human has equal rights, why do you selectively believe in allowing a human life to be terminated?

 

[hiphophorray123]

the inherent aspect of human rights outlines that every human is BORN with the same human rights as others

babies arent BORN till they come out mate

doesn't say all fetuses have rights does it

 

[hiphophorray123]

1) In this post you seem to be against the idea of governments raising the value of a currency, yet this is the opposite to what you railed against earlier (the float) which is where market forces determine currency values.

2) In layman's terms they pulled out of Thailand because of what they saw as unsustainable foreign debt. Herd mentality led to similar events throughout the region.

3) If you believe every human has equal rights, why do you selectively believe in allowing a human life to be terminated?

im not against it wtf i just said it was a stupid idea of the asians which lead to the crisis...because i learnt that the crisis was bought about by that..

im not against it...there are pros and cons for every economics decision..

 

[neo o]

Would that be a natural birth, or C-Section there.

Also, many babies are aborted that could survive if they were born, and weren't forcibly removed, are these children less human because they were killed before being born?

And why are you so willing to draw such petty distinctions upon what defines a human life?

im not against it wtf i just said it was a stupid idea of the asians which lead to the crisis...because i learnt that the crisis was bought about by that..

im not against it...there are pros and cons for every economics decision..

Incorrect. You just don't know what you're talking about.

 

[hiphophorray123]

thats what was taught to me and im telling you that, i know what im talking about because i know i was taught that...

and no its not a petty definition of human life, that is what is outlined specifically in legal studies textbooks 'when babies are BORN they are given rights'

 

[hiphophorray123]

are these children less human because they were killed before being born?
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no their dead

 

[neo o]

thats what was taught to me and im telling you that, i know what im talking about because i know i was taught that...

and no its not a petty definition of human life, that is what is outlined specifically in legal studies textbooks 'when babies are BORN they are given rights'

1) WOW A LEGAL STUDIES TEXTBOOK! This has nothing to do with the law, it has everything to do with whether a baby is alive or not, and a baby that could survive on its own if it was born at the time of abortion, is for all intents and purposes alive. Therefore youre a hypocrite, since you don't actually value the rights of all humans equal anyway.

Besides the point is that humans will never be equal due to differences in situation and context.

2) Well, you haven't been taught very well, and I offered you a rather detailed explanation of the what actually happened during the Asian crisis. If you're unwilling to accept that you're wrong though....

no their dead

But to be dead, dont you have to be alive first? Like, a rock isn't dead, because it was never alive.

Now that you've proven yourself wrong, shall we move on?

HEY EVERYBODY, HIPHOP DOESN'T BELIEVE ALL PEOPLE ARE EQUAL :uhhuh: bad leftist, bad.

 

[hiphophorray123]

1)

But to be dead, dont you have to be alive first? Like, a rock isn't dead, because it was never alive.

Now that you've proven yourself wrong, shall we move on?

yeah your right a rock isnt dead because it was never alive....but a baby can be dead without being alive....because it is killed before BIRTH...for your own sake i hope your ego doesn't get any bigger

 

[neo o]

yeah your right a rock isnt dead because it was never alive....but a baby can be dead without being alive....because it is killed before BIRTH...for your own sake i hope your ego doesn't get any bigger

How can you kill a baby that according to you isn't alive and isn't human? Again, you can't kill a rock.

 

[hiphophorray123]

through abortion

 

[Not-That-Bright]

so you're aborting a rock now?

 

[hiphophorray123]

he asked

How can you kill a baby that according to you isn't alive and isn't human? QUOTE]

 

[lengstar]

technically a baby is cell, much like a bacteria. what separates it from bacteria its its potential to change from that one cell to a human foetus. so they aren't killing a child, they are killing a cell that has divided many times. what he's worried about is that it has the 'potential' to become a child.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

yes, they're killing a cell like this one -> http://wprc.org/pictures/ultrasound.mov

 

[hiphophorray123]

technically a baby is cell, much like a bacteria. what separates it from bacteria its its potential to change from that one cell to a human foetus. so they aren't killing a child, they are killing a cell that has divided many times. what he's worried about is that it has the 'potential' to become a child.

any opinion that is comes into conflict with theirs is incorrect, you should know that by now , rightists are all the same

 

[Not-That-Bright]

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if an opinion was different to mine and i thought my opinion was wrong because of it wouldn't i then make that my opinion?

 

[Monkey Butler]

You're all in the wrong thread. You want to debate the aplicability of the Dec. of Human Rights to fetuses, go into the abortion thread (if you're arguing that fetuses are alive, then the dec. actually helps you - see article 3). And Not-That-Bright, throwing around pictures of fetuses is a very bad way to argue your case. Everyone understands what abortion means, they don't need it constantly thrown in their faces.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

that's not a featus, it's still classed as an embryo.
And i don't believe everyone DOES understand what it means, involves..