lolTacoTerrorist said:<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Quran and Evolution - Origin of Life:
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Science tells us now that the life on earth originated from water. Even today while we are exploring the galaxies and actively searching for life on other planets, the 1 st question we ask; is there any water on that planet to sustain life, because without water life is impossible. Quran 1400 years ago, before the discovery of science, said the same thing :
"Do not the unbeliever see that the heaven and the earth were joined together, then we set them asunder and we got every living thing out of water. Will they then not believe".
[chapter 21 - verse 30]
First living thing was algae in plant kingdom then animal kingdom started. Quran makes reference to plant kingdom.
[chapter 21 - verse 53]
"(God is the one who) sent down the water from the sky and thereby brought forth pairs of plants, each separate from the other." The verse also points out the sexual reproduction in plant kingdom, much before science discovered it. In 13/3 male and female fruit plants are described.
[chapter 13 - verse 3]
^ Similarly reference is made to the water origin of animals:-
"Allah Almighty (God) created every animal from water. Among living objects there are some which crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs and some on four".
[chapter 24 - verse 45]
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Creation of Man
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>You just read Aya, that every living thing came out of water as a matter of fact 60% of human's body is water. There are number of verses in Quran that refer to the earthly origin of man, which the Science found later. Let us go through verses.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> "He caused you to grow from earth"
[chapter 11 - verse 61]
"We fashioned you from soil."
[chapter 22 - verse 5]
"It is He who initiated your creation from inanimate matter and prescribed laws to determine the term of your physical life".
[chapter 6 - verse 2]
"Man's creation was initiated from inorganic matter which before you, was lying lifeless in the form of clay".
[chapter 32 - verse 7]
"All these planets are only masses of particles which are attached together; whereas human life has progressed and passed through innumerable stages of development (32:7)".
[chapter 37 - verse 11]
"If you want to have an idea of various aspects of His Power, think about the creation of your own self".
[chapter 55 - verse 14]
"The status of human life has been achieved after successfully passing through the steps of animal life".
[chapter 23 - verse 12]
Quintessence means gist or extract of some thing. All the chemical components of human body can also be found in earth as well, that is what the aya implies. So, long before the science discovered earthly origin of man, Quran said it before.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Quran Perspective Man Transformation
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>We have seen four waves of humans, transformed over a period of time, accepted in Science. Is there any thing in Quran about these transformations. Following verses refer to that:
"We created you and fashioned you and then We asked Malaika to bow before Adam, the representative of humanity".
[chapter 7 - verse 11]
"The Rabb (God Almighty ) Who according to His law of creation, took you through various evolutionary stages one after the other; and fashioned you by removing unnecessary elements, thereby creating excellent balance, proportion and symmetry in you".
[chapter 82 - verse 7-8]
" This tussle occurs because We have bestowed man with the ability to nourish and develop his self and lead a balanced life in a dignified manner".
[chapter 95 - verse 4]
" How can you attain this state of life? For this you should ponder over the Divine Law of Creation, according to which you have passed through various evolutionary stages to attain human form".
[chapter 71 - verse 14]
"(They are very proud that they are mighty and strong; but they forget that) We have created them; and We have endowed strength and stability to their countenances. If they oppose Our Laws, then according to Our Law of Mashiyyat, it is not at all difficult for Us to wholly replace them with another nation".
[chapter 76 - verse 28]
"Allah's law is that everyone is assigned a position according to his deeds of which Allah Almighty is not
unaware ".
[chapter 6 - verse 133]
http://www.parvez-video.com/islam_divine_quran_cattle.asp
Source: http://www.parvez-video.com/science.asp
Funny how a book written 1400 years ago by a bunch of desert Arabs concurs with modern science in many ways.
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haven't u heard of the clay theory of abiogenesis?withoutaface said:"He caused you to grow from earth"
[chapter 11 - verse 61]
"We fashioned you from soil."
[chapter 22 - verse 5]
But the general scientific consensus is that life began in the ocean...
EDIT: Wait, nevermind, it even contradicts itself in this regard.
Damn right we are, last I checked evolution doesn't have a set goal in mind, a misconception people seem to have.conics2008 said:they think its random chance.. haha
Atheists are still evolving.
Have you actually read the qur'an? did you even bother to look up those verses before you posted them? they're either horribly mistranslated, or blatantly edited. Despite this, theyre still about as insightful as id expect some sandniggers in 700BC to be.TacoTerrorist said:<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Quran and Evolution - Origin of Life:
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Science tells us now that the life on earth originated from water. Even today while we are exploring the galaxies and actively searching for life on other planets, the 1 st question we ask; is there any water on that planet to sustain life, because without water life is impossible. Quran 1400 years ago, before the discovery of science, said the same thing :
"Do not the unbeliever see that the heaven and the earth were joined together, then we set them asunder and we got every living thing out of water. Will they then not believe".
[chapter 21 - verse 30]
First living thing was algae in plant kingdom then animal kingdom started. Quran makes reference to plant kingdom.
[chapter 21 - verse 53]
"(God is the one who) sent down the water from the sky and thereby brought forth pairs of plants, each separate from the other." The verse also points out the sexual reproduction in plant kingdom, much before science discovered it. In 13/3 male and female fruit plants are described.
[chapter 13 - verse 3]
^ Similarly reference is made to the water origin of animals:-
"Allah Almighty (God) created every animal from water. Among living objects there are some which crawl on their bellies, some walk on two legs and some on four".
[chapter 24 - verse 45]
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> Creation of Man
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>You just read Aya, that every living thing came out of water as a matter of fact 60% of human's body is water. There are number of verses in Quran that refer to the earthly origin of man, which the Science found later. Let us go through verses.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> "He caused you to grow from earth"
[chapter 11 - verse 61]
"We fashioned you from soil."
[chapter 22 - verse 5]
"It is He who initiated your creation from inanimate matter and prescribed laws to determine the term of your physical life".
[chapter 6 - verse 2]
"Man's creation was initiated from inorganic matter which before you, was lying lifeless in the form of clay".
[chapter 32 - verse 7]
"All these planets are only masses of particles which are attached together; whereas human life has progressed and passed through innumerable stages of development (32:7)".
[chapter 37 - verse 11]
"If you want to have an idea of various aspects of His Power, think about the creation of your own self".
[chapter 55 - verse 14]
"The status of human life has been achieved after successfully passing through the steps of animal life".
[chapter 23 - verse 12]
Quintessence means gist or extract of some thing. All the chemical components of human body can also be found in earth as well, that is what the aya implies. So, long before the science discovered earthly origin of man, Quran said it before.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>Quran Perspective Man Transformation
</td> </tr> <tr> <td>We have seen four waves of humans, transformed over a period of time, accepted in Science. Is there any thing in Quran about these transformations. Following verses refer to that:
"We created you and fashioned you and then We asked Malaika to bow before Adam, the representative of humanity".
[chapter 7 - verse 11]
"The Rabb (God Almighty ) Who according to His law of creation, took you through various evolutionary stages one after the other; and fashioned you by removing unnecessary elements, thereby creating excellent balance, proportion and symmetry in you".
[chapter 82 - verse 7-8]
" This tussle occurs because We have bestowed man with the ability to nourish and develop his self and lead a balanced life in a dignified manner".
[chapter 95 - verse 4]
" How can you attain this state of life? For this you should ponder over the Divine Law of Creation, according to which you have passed through various evolutionary stages to attain human form".
[chapter 71 - verse 14]
"(They are very proud that they are mighty and strong; but they forget that) We have created them; and We have endowed strength and stability to their countenances. If they oppose Our Laws, then according to Our Law of Mashiyyat, it is not at all difficult for Us to wholly replace them with another nation".
[chapter 76 - verse 28]
"Allah's law is that everyone is assigned a position according to his deeds of which Allah Almighty is not
unaware ".
[chapter 6 - verse 133]
Source: http://www.parvez-video.com/science.asp
Funny how a book written 1400 years ago by a bunch of desert Arabs concurs with modern science in many ways.
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At any rate, I think it's a concern that atheists continue to evolve while the religious don't!veloc1ty said:Damn right we are, last I checked evolution doesn't have a set goal in mind, a misconception people seem to have.
Are you implying that the verses are mistranslated? No, they aren't.a) Post-hoc interpretations don't prove anything other than how flexible a piece of literature can be.
1400 years ago people thought the earth was flat. 1400 years ago most people couldn't read. I doubt that people knew about the formation of the universe or the finer details of the origin of man.b) Some of these discoveries were already made... and we knew they were made, by man.
So? This explanation is one backed up by modern science.c) A lot of things have other explanations... i.e. There were pagan ideas of humans being created in water, it has nothing to do with the knowledge that our bodies are mostly water...
There were three claims. All you retarded atheists demand is proof, and I have proved to you that the Quran contained the principles of the Big Bang theory and direct references to human evolution; and it has been proven to be 1400 years old. Just concede the fucking point.c) You make enough claims you'll get SOME right.
Is just really uncool. I would rather live in a country where everyone was open minded and thoughtful and all believed in a sky-wizard than a country where everyone was an arrogant atheist prick.At any rate, I think it's a concern that atheists continue to evolve while the religious don't!
More like no amount of strawman explanations and/or tongue twisting crap will hide your blatant scientific illiteracyTacoTerrorist said:I am a Deist, but am sympathetic to theists. I can't believe that some little pseudo-intellectual 17yo from BoS has the gall to insult a person for what they see as irrational beliefs, when that very same person essentially believes that the earth and the complexities of this insanely well designed universe were created by chance, for no fucking reason and from fucking nothing. No amount of scientific explainations and/or tongue twisting crap will diverge from this.
actually, they are.TacoTerrorist said:Are you implying that the verses are mistranslated? No, they aren't.
As expected, the classic roundabout argument from the athiest when he cannot answer a question. Science cannot solve the fact that something cannot come from nothing. To believe that the amazingly detailed earth and universe created itself is to defy common sense.More like no amount of strawman explanations and/or tongue twisting crap will hide your blatant scientific illiteracy