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Freedom prevails!My suggestion that it be locked was ignored, then with Iron no longer a moderator...when the cats away...
Freedom prevails!My suggestion that it be locked was ignored, then with Iron no longer a moderator...when the cats away...
Hmmm, and it only reached #2 after you suggest it be locked. Maybe if we all suggest it, it will jump to #1. HSC Timetables is up there at the moment. Come on people, this AIDS stuff is important!My suggestion that it be locked was ignored, then with Iron no longer a moderator...when the cats away...
A winner is you.Freedom prevails!
I through my two cents in ages ago and Iron told me to shutup.Hmmm, and it only reached #2 after you suggest it be locked. Maybe if we all suggest it, it will jump to #1. HSC Timetables is up there at the moment. Come on people, this AIDS stuff is important!
... although we don't seem to be talking about it anymore.
What do you think, Lentern? Do you think that the Catholic Church can be given partial blame for the magnitude of the AIDS epidemic in Africa? I hear that your Catholic, so I'm hoping for quite an intriguing response, similar to that of the much-exonerated Iron.
Best argument I've seen from your side of the aisle for a long time.I through my two cents in ages ago and Iron told me to shutup.
I like to think myself a progressive catholic and I do actually think the Catholic Church has got it wrong re contraception. But I don't think we are accountable in that what we recomend does actually work when applied, people who abstain don't get aids. There is a fallacy emerging I fear that the church's view is "if you must have ex-marital sex, atleast don't do so with contraception." That has never been the church's view and I think arguing that it does weakens the arguement of intelligent critics like yourself who raise a serious issue. It to me is a bit like the people who say John Howard and Alexander Downer knew the SIEVX was out there sinking and decided that they shouldn't rescue the victims because of the potential political fallout. An impossible suggestion which has undermined the views of many intelligent people who dissagreed with Howard's refugee policy.
The other reason I find it absurd that the church be held accountable is that it does not police or enforce this view. It is a discouragement and it is not a discouragement of contraception it is of sexual immorality. The condemnation of contraception is a clarification that it is still against our doctrines to have ex-marital sex even if a little contraption will prevent a child or disease coming from it.
You sound like a National Socialist.... I dont see why all these people take so much interest in other people's sex lives...
If the afros want to fuck till they drop with viruses dont stop them... Do you have ANY idea about the concept known as Darwin's Theory of Evolution?
The more they fuck the more likely one of them will develop a genetic defect that will cure AIDS...
Burn the condoms.
Hahaha clearly you don't.... I dont see why all these people take so much interest in other people's sex lives...
If the afros want to fuck till they drop with viruses dont stop them... Do you have ANY idea about the concept known as Darwin's Theory of Evolution?
Hahaha once again, you have no idea what you're talking about. Unless you're referring to the CCR5-Δ32 mutation!The more they fuck the more likely one of them will develop a genetic defect that will cure AIDS...
That is absolutely, without a doubt, the stupidest thing I have heard in the last 2, maybe even 3 hours. If you truly believe any of the things you have said, than I pity your stupidity and despise your utter immorality.... I dont see why all these people take so much interest in other people's sex lives...
If the afros want to fuck till they drop with viruses dont stop them... Do you have ANY idea about the concept known as Darwin's Theory of Evolution?
The more they fuck the more likely one of them will develop a genetic defect that will cure AIDS...
Burn the condoms.
In regads to wielding influence over Africans anyone whose sexual lives the church has influenced would not have aids. That is the fallacy I spoke of before; we don't say "if you must have ex marital sex atleast don't use a condom." The church discourages ex marital sex in its entirety and has done little more than stress that the inability to create life through this sex beyond the institution of marriage does not excuse it.Best argument I've seen from your side of the aisle for a long time.
If I were a Catholic, and against contraception, this is probably the view I would hold.
However, I'm not Catholic, and do believe that the influence that they have over the African populous does equate to partial (if only minute) blame with regards to the size of the AIDs epidemic in Africa.
I also believe that the Church does enforce their view. I don't have a "citation" as of yet, but I am reasonably certain that they prevent the education of the African people about contraception. Assuming this is true, would you then equate this to partial guilt?
Wouldn't that be because they stone people who commit adultery?? I know, another useless comment. Just thought i'd put it out there.Useless comment, but I'll point out all it's flaws anyways. Countries in Africa that are muslim dominated actually have the lowest percenatge of HIV/AIDS.
Well said, If less people blamed the church and started recognising the individuals responsibilty far more progress would be made in the HIV/AIDS situation
Well said, If less people blamed the church and started recognising the individuals responsibilty far more progress would be made in the HIV/AIDS situation
The church is not intervening to stop people getting condoms if they want them, they are saying the American government shouldn't have to provide them. If you think you are moe moral than the church go spend your $900 for african condoms.But condoms WERE WORKING!
You're just pushing your religious views on people whose lives are already bad enough.
Anyone who would consider themselves remotely moral would put the welfare of these people above pointing the finger at them.
There is a problem. We had a solution. You took the solution away and are now blaming them, when the problem could have been fixed with a few condoms.