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Would you take a coronavirus vaccine if it was available to you, and if so which would you prefer?

  • No

    Votes: 17 11.3%
  • Any vaccine

    Votes: 19 12.7%
  • Pfizer

    Votes: 46 30.7%
  • Astra Zeneca

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Already vaccinated with AZ

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Already vaccinated with Pfizer

    Votes: 59 39.3%
  • Moderna

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Sputnik

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Janssen

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Novavax

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Total voters
    150

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yeah, and stuff from kmart they somehow couldn't get online or at the supermarket couldn't wait until daylight to get
fucked in the head
 

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CFMEU national construction secretary released a statement on Monday night accusing the crowd of being “infiltrated by neo-Nazis and other right wing extremist groups”.
The guy is a piece of shit, the man (Setka) was treated like a deity, kept union members docile with a diet of talking shit and high wages while he sold the members down the river (meanwhile the State has been screwed over sideways by costs blowouts on every single infrastructure project, all while every player is collecting a stash of cash in a brown paper bag). Push came to shove, the mask slipped off and it was suddenly time to blame the mythical far right (lol, proper nationalist movement that could mobilise to that extent in a shit hole like Melbourne is fucking laughable).

Those two days of protest were nothing more than a pretext for what is coming for the CFMEU and other Union movements (people are leaving their unions in their droves because they got hung out to dry). The well of obedient, docile union members is drying up where the socialist types have literally had to resort to grifting posters (while pissing off nearly everyone in the neighborhood).

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They go around putting up these posters with impunity, meanwhile, if there is so much as an utterance about Daniel Andrews, VicPol will be there to give a good old fashion clubbing.

melbourne is a fukn shithole leftist police state

melb police = absolute dogs

hope someone assassinates dan andrews soon
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there are no plans

this shit will go on forever
Their "plan" is entirely on the pretext of "one-upmanship," self preservation and politics (the lot of them).
 

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yeah ive got mates over an hour out of melbourne who saw those dumb shit posters ffs
 

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CFMEU literally supports the same big australia immigration policies as the business council of australia lmao

too bad their headquarters didn't get burnt tot he ground
 

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yeah ive got mates over an hour out of melbourne who saw those dumb shit posters ffs
Saw one of them putting a poster up, deliberately made a point of pulling my mask down and spat on the floor. Got asked "do you have a problem?" I commented whether the poster was oxymoronic or just moronic. She asked if I was a fascist. Told them no, but all my family fled the shit they're pedaling, got told to fuck off.

CFMEU literally supports the same big australia immigration policies as the business council of australia lmao

too bad their headquarters didn't get burnt tot he ground
My dad works construction, hates the CFMEU (says their motto should be give a little with one hand, take all with the other). Has the same criticisms (that they are in cahoots with big business and government and have no interest in helping the little guy. Further states that the organisation is rotten from top down, he has not paid membership in over 15 years) He cracked open a beer and was cheering when he saw them having a go at the building.
 

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how is anyone still defending the victorian government at this point

anyone who thinks they handled any of this better than nsw has rocks in their brain

absolutely fucked in the hed
 

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I’m pro dom simply bcz he doesn’t do lockdowns, not like it matters since I’m in iso rn but lockdowns are the worst. the personal responsibility agenda is lazy on the govts part but it makes sense and is better than a shut down society where things go back to square one once things open up.

also everyone knows vax isn’t gonna end the pandemic but it sure helps, yeah naturally acquired immunity is better but idk within my friends and family I saw vaxxed adults suffering far worse and longer than the vaxxed adults, could be a coincidence or due to other factors but seeing this makes me think the vaccine actually contributes to something, it’s not gonna make us invincible in the face of death obviously, but at least for older people it can help prevent extreme outcomes

cosmo 2 and his anti vax statements are both stupid bcz nobody said the vaccine alone was gonna end the pandemic, just bcz the case numbers and deaths are rising rn doesn’t mean the vaccine is ineffective
 

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5 bucks were going into a lockdown again and do online school again!!! 😭😭

here we go again
 

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ye but we have to learn to live with it. people have to die to stop this virus, a simple fact that not many people want to accept. plus that 5.3m stat is rubbish, in the US and Australia the govt was paying hospitals to record any death in the wards as a corona death. i know this first-hand. itd be naive to think that stat inflation wouldn't occur.
also, this time right now is the best time to spread herd natural antibody immunity because of omicron. this strain is actually a blessing. according to worldometer, out of the active cases in Australia, only 0.1% are critical, despite the death rate being 0.9%. thats in an omicron dominant sample, which indicates its less lethal. thats why im happy with what perrotet is doing, while mark mcgowen is a lunatic over 1 case.
I actually think that understatement of deaths more than offsets any supposed overstatement, particularly if you look at the excess deaths count compared to a normal year (for highly covid infected countries that is).

Either way, you have to remember that Australia’s low death rate is inclusive of the mitigation effects of aggressive suppression, contact tracing and lockdowns. You cannot really extrapolate and expect the same result in a scenario where these aggressive mitigation impacts are now removed. There is a lot of inherent uncertainty because whilst vaccines, masks, somewhat lower severity of variant all put downward pressure on adverse outcomes, they can be offset by the upwards pressure of the sheer number of cases by virtue of greater infectiousness and lack of any aggressive mitigation measures. It then becomes a matter of how much the differing forces net each other out, which is notoriously difficult to predict.

I would also caution the use of percentages in general as they don’t tell the whole picture, especially if you’re not comparing like-for-like. As highlighted in earlier posts a lower percentage of a larger number can be higher than a larger percentage of a smaller number. A classic example of this is the original SARS virus had a 10% death rate, yet there were far more deaths from SARS-CoV-2 despite having a significantly lower death rate (say < 1%), because you need to also account for its far greater infectiousness. Looking at deaths rates alone will miss that key detail because it measures the probability of dying conditional on being infected and does not consider the probability of getting infected.
 

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I’m pro dom simply bcz he doesn’t do lockdowns, not like it matters since I’m in iso rn but lockdowns are the worst. the personal responsibility agenda is lazy on the govts part but it makes sense and is better than a shut down society where things go back to square one once things open up.
I think physical distancing, masks, hand & personal hygiene are very important and large crowded events should be avoided, but I was dismayed when they restricted apartment dwellers in ‘LGAs of concern’ to one hour outdoors per day (we live in a semi rural area so it didn’t apply to us) because severe COVID is an aberrant inflammatory response and the baseline cardiometabolic status (ie. obesity, diabetes, cardiovascular risk) is one of the major determining factors for disease severity & likelihood of hospitalisation in an individual infected with SARS-COV-2 (https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.120.019259) so people were cooped up and sedentary indoors, eating & gaining weight, instead of exercising outdoors to improve their resilience to the virus. As variants of the SARS-COV-2 virus are likely to be circulating for a long time, I hope any future ‘lockdowns’ involve only closures of indoor places and restriction of large events, but not of the populations’ access to open spaces for exercise.
 
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