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Simplify in exact form:
{[1+sin(pi/7)+icos(pi/7)]/[1+sin(pi/7)-icos(pi/7)]}7

For what values of n is:
(1+i)n + (1-i)n = 0

Taken from Terry Lee 7th Edition. The worked solution is not making much sense to me.
 
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bored of sc said:
Simplify in exact form:
For what values of n is:
(1+i)n + (1-i)n = 0
root2^n(cos 45n+isin 45n)+root2^n(cos 45n-isin45n)=0
root2^n (2cos 45n)=0

cos 45ndegrees=0
45degreesn= (360k+-90)degrees
n=8k+-2 where k is any integer
i'm not sure..
 
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bored of sc said:
Simplify in exact form:
{[1+sin(pi/7)+icos(pi/7)]/[1+sin(pi/7)-icos(pi/7)]}7

For what values of n is:
(1+i)n + (1-i)n = 0

Taken from Terry Lee 7th Edition. The worked solution is not making much sense to me.

(1+i)^n = sqrt(2)^n (cos n pi/4 + sin n pi/4)
(1-i)^n = sqrt(2)^n (cos n -pi/4 + sin n -pi/4)

(1+i)^n + (1-i)^n = 2 sqrt(2)^n (cos n pi/4)
= sqrt(2)^(n+2) (cos n pi/4)
The equation is 0 when n pi/4) = +- pi/2 +- 3pi/2 and etc.
n = +-2, +- 6 etc.

= +- (plus & minus) 4n +- (plus & minus) 2


BY THE WAY, Q1 is screwed up. I got up to writing 10 lines where I got up to:

(2icos(pi/7)/(1+cis(180+2p))^7

I tried my best to get rid of 1s but I reckon it takes a bit of effort to do that. The key to solving that problem should be to get rid of 1s or other numbers.

Waaiit:

I think I got to something:

Is the answer something like:

2.8704837... + 8.2033... i
 
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lyounamu said:
(1+i)^n = sqrt(2)^n (cos n pi/4 + sin n pi/4)
(1-i)^n = sqrt(2)^n (cos n -pi/4 + sin n -pi/4)

(1+i)^n + (1-i)^n = 2 sqrt(2)^n (cos n pi/4)
= sqrt(2)^(n+2) (cos n pi/4)
The equation is 0 when n pi/4) = +- pi/2 +- 3pi/2 and etc.
n = +-2, +- 6 etc.

= +- (plus & minus) 4n +- (plus & minus) 2


BY THE WAY, Q1 is screwed up. I got up to writing 10 lines where I got up to:

(2icos(pi/7)/(1+cis(180+2p))^7

I tried my best to get rid of 1s but I reckon it takes a bit of effort to do that. The key to solving that problem should be to get rid of 1s or other numbers.

Waaiit:

I think I got to something:

Is the answer something like:

2.8704837... + 8.2033... i
Jebus
I took like, 20 lines to get the answer for the second question ==;;
I did all this unncessecary crap
Also, your answer has a flaw in it. It doesn't allow for the answer for be n = +-2, which it works for
I think you mean +-4n -+2. Just a minor correction (although it would've cost you a mark! :p )

Also, WTF at the first question?
Okay yeah, I absolutely cannot get anything near an exact value answer
 
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Now, the first problem we encounter, is that we have 1 + sin(pi/7) + icos(pi/7), and 1 + sin (pi/7) - icos(pi/7) on the bottom. Evidently, the cos is imaginary, and the sin is real, which is a bit of a problem. But, we can use complementary angles to help us out here.

(1 + cos (pi/2 - pi/7) + isin (p/2 - pi/7))/(1 + cos (pi/2 - pi/7) - isin (pi/2 - pi/7)), at the moment ignoring the 7th power.

Simplifying this, we get:

(1 + cos (5pi/14) + isin (5pi/14)) / (1 + cos (5pi/14) - isin (5pi/14))

Now, the next problem is the "1", as lyounamu correctly pointed out. This took me a little while to get rid of, but it's really very simple. Lets use cos(5pi/14) and isin (5pi/14) as double angles.

We know that cos2x = 2cos^2x - 1

and that cos2x + 1 = 2cos^2x. So we assume that 5pi/14 is the double angle, so we can change that to:

[2cos^2(5pi/28) + 2isin (5pi/28) cos (5pi/28)]/[2cos^2(5pi/28) - 2isin (5pi/28) cos (5pi/28)]

now, we can factor out 2cos (5pi/28) from both numerator and denominator:

{2cos(5pi/28) [cos (5pi/28) + i sin (5pi/28)]} / {2cos (5pi/28) [ cos (5pi/28) - isin (5pi/28)]}

The 2cos (5pi/28) will cancel out, and you're left with:

[cos (5pi/28) + i sin (5pi/28]/[cos (5pi/28) - isin (5pi/28)]

Now, we re-introduce the power of 7, and using de moivres theorem:

[cos (5pi/4) + i sin (5pi/4)] / [cos (5pi/4) - isin (5pi/4)]

Simplifying,

[-1/root2 - (1/root2)i] / [-1/root2 + (1/root2) i]

= [(-1-i)/root2] / [(-1 + i)/root2]

= -(1 + i)/ -(1-i)

= (1 + i) / (1 - i), after dividing top and bottom by -1

= i or/ cis pi/2
 
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(the centre point is D)

OA and OB represent each of 1+sin(pi/7)+icos(pi/7) and 1+sin(pi/7)-icos(pi/7). Angles DBA and DAB = pi/7, so angles ADC and BDC = 5pi/14 as they are complementary.
Each of OD, AD and BD have a modulus of 1, and so can be inscribed in a circle. From circle geo, we know that < AOB = 1/2 < ADB = 5pi/14
As OA and OB have the same modulus, and have a difference in angle of 5pi/14, division of OA/OB will give cis(5pi/14)
cis(5pi/14)7
= cis(35pi/14)
= cis(7pi/14 + 28pi/14)
= cis(pi/2)
= i
 
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lolokay said:


(the centre point is D)

OA and OB represent each of 1+sin(pi/7)+icos(pi/7) and 1+sin(pi/7)-icos(pi/7). Angles DBA and DAB = pi/7, so angles ADC and BDC = 5pi/14 as they are complementary.
Each of OD, AD and BD have a modulus of 1, and so can be inscribed in a circle. From circle geo, we know that < AOB = 1/2 < ADB = 5pi/14
As OA and OB have the same modulus, and have a difference in angle of 5pi/14, division of OA/OB will give cis(5pi/14)
cis(5pi/14)7
= cis(35pi/14)
= cis(7pi/14 + 28pi/14)
= cis(pi/2)
= i
That's very impressive.
 

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Gee thanks y'all. Especially gurmies and lolokay for their excellent solutions.
 

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lolokay said:


(the centre point is D)

OA and OB represent each of 1+sin(pi/7)+icos(pi/7) and 1+sin(pi/7)-icos(pi/7). Angles DBA and DAB = pi/7, so angles ADC and BDC = 5pi/14 as they are complementary.
Each of OD, AD and BD have a modulus of 1, and so can be inscribed in a circle. From circle geo, we know that < AOB = 1/2 < ADB = 5pi/14
As OA and OB have the same modulus, and have a difference in angle of 5pi/14, division of OA/OB will give cis(5pi/14)
cis(5pi/14)7
= cis(35pi/14)
= cis(7pi/14 + 28pi/14)
= cis(pi/2)
= i
OooO didnt u do ur hsc in 2008? or did u accel.
 

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