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Dear lefties, Rudd is a CRIMINAL who has BETRAYED you (1 Viewer)

BigBoyJames__

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lol, no wonder you want tony abbott voted in - you cant help but bring religion into this.

but im not jewish so wtf?
listen mudu fuku

you're a fucking Jewish cunt because I said you are. Period.

Now go get your eyes translated so you look like a slant.
 

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I only clicked on this because I read the title as referring to left handed people. Now that would have been a more interesting thread...
 

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listen mudu fuku

you're a fucking Jewish cunt because I said you are. Period.

Now go get your eyes translated so you look like a slant.
pathetic.... if you had an argument you would have responded with it... instead you try to insist im jewish which i obviously am not. period.

now go and get your eyes checked because you need to re-examine posts.
 

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Except our only real alternative is Tony "abortion is a national tragedy and hey, how about a return to the at-fault divorce system? BTW UNEMPLOYED TO THE MINES!" Abbott. I'm not happy with either option (hence Greens) but the fact is that someone will be in charge and I'd rather it not be Abbott.
hai bby great minds think alike post a pic bby
 

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pathetic.... if you had an argument you would have responded with it... instead you try to insist im jewish which i obviously am not. period.

now go and get your eyes checked because you need to re-examine posts.
listen you mother fucking kike. i know you are not a fucking big nosed yahoodi but i like to use the term as an insult because jews are sub human fucking animals.

no u get your eyes checked because your fucking Asian pussy licker of a prime minister wants you to follow in his step.
 

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I think its fair to say most socially left people at this place atleast have always been green voters who merely prefer Rudd to John Howard or Tony Abbott. There are a lot of people who claim to prefer Malcolm Turnbull to Rudd and a lot more who prefer Julia Gillard. Like many others I may defend the government when it comes to liberal/labor comparisons, we still can't forgive the treatment of Mohammad Haneef and Shayan Badraie, but ultimately we don't need to be told that Rudd labor is absolutely a betrayal of leftist ideals.
 

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Frankly I can't stand either of them. But the reality is Rudd has been EXTREMELY socially regressive in his term in government, while Abbott is just a dunderhead who would hopefully be restrained by his party. For me it comes down to this: Rudd HAS fucked up, Abbott MIGHT fuck up, and either way the Greens will have the balance of power.

Who will I vote for? I don't actually think it matters beyond preferencing Greens first. Rudd's crackpot agenda and the sacking of Turnball as opposition leader in place of Abbott drained me of any faith in Labour or Liberal and I'll probably just flip a coin on election day.
 

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Frankly I can't stand either of them. But the reality is Rudd has been EXTREMELY socially regressive in his term in government, while Abbott is just a dunderhead who would hopefully be restrained by his party. For me it comes down to this: Rudd HAS fucked up, Abbott MIGHT fuck up, and either way the Greens will have the balance of power.

Who will I vote for? I don't actually think it matters beyond preferencing Greens first. Rudd's crackpot agenda and the sacking of Turnball as opposition leader in place of Abbott drained me of any faith in Labour or Liberal and I'll probably just flip a coin on election day.
This, except will vote LDP in the senate.
 

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-lemon- said:
Incorrect.
In the 'libertarian' world there are no laws to break, thus one cannot be a criminal.

Just take rural Somalia for example, it's one of the most libertarian countries in the world. The government has little to no role in peoples lives, there is no social security, there is no 'government interference' in the 'free market', in fact the entire society is governed by these 'free market' forces you worship.

Now if someone in Somalia decides to go and murder a family and acquire there house and land, one cannot label them a criminal without appealing to, and projecting onto them, the laws of a foreign country. In the eyes of the 'free market' they are perfectly rational utility maximizes, and their actions are perfectly efficient.
Somalia is not a libertarian nation and it does not have libertarian values. It is a war-torn country ruled by warlords and the like. Absence of government on its own does not imply libertarianism, as the authoritarian State is merely replaced by militant warlords vying for power and resources. To draw a connection between Somalia and Anarchist or libertarian thought is foolish and ill-considered.

Also, there is a distinction between the terms 'Anarchist' and 'Libertarian', as a true Anarchist does not support the free market, and a Libertarian may or may not support the free market.

-lemon- said:
I say no to this, the libertarian doctrine is academically outdated and morally repulsive.
So you have two options, stay in 'big-goverment' Australia, or go and live in 'free market' Somalia.
I think I know which one you deadbeats will choose.
Hypocrites.
I would agree that traditional i.e 'Anarcho'-Capitalism or free market libertarianism is academically outdated and morally repulsive. But even still, Somalia does not represent free market libertarianism, as the country is in a precarious economic position to begin with, and has to contend with various Statist governments interfering with it.
 

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The only possible government I can think of that wouldn't be socially regressive in this country, would be something like Turnbull/Hockey as PM with a substantial Greens minority to keep out any conservative bullshit.

Not gonna happen but. I'll continue to vote 1 Greens, ... , n-1 Liberal, n Labor, lol.
 

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Frankly I can't stand either of them. But the reality is Rudd has been EXTREMELY socially regressive in his term in government, while Abbott is just a dunderhead who would hopefully be restrained by his party. For me it comes down to this: Rudd HAS fucked up, Abbott MIGHT fuck up, and either way the Greens will have the balance of power.

Who will I vote for? I don't actually think it matters beyond preferencing Greens first. Rudd's crackpot agenda and the sacking of Turnball as opposition leader in place of Abbott drained me of any faith in Labour or Liberal and I'll probably just flip a coin on election day.
lol tossing a coin ftw.
 

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The only possible government I can think of that wouldn't be socially regressive in this country, would be something like Turnbull/Hockey as PM with a substantial Greens minority to keep out any conservative bullshit.

Not gonna happen but. I'll continue to vote 1 Greens, ... , n-1 Liberal, n Labor, lol.
lol?
 
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The only possible government I can think of that wouldn't be socially regressive in this country, would be something like Turnbull/Hockey as PM with a substantial Greens minority to keep out any conservative bullshit.

Not gonna happen but. I'll continue to vote 1 Greens, ... , n-1 Liberal, n Labor, lol.
shooters party m8
 

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Somalia with no government was quite bad

But not as bad as when Somalia had a government
 

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hes only been in office for almost one term. jesus christ look at his time in office in context to the previous gov't who were in for a decade or so. i dont think you'll find they were "progressive" after their first term either.

and dont act all 'i didnt accuse rudd of anything' because your thread calls his a crimal and a betrayer. again, you have a pretty pathetic argument here.
they are not meant to be progressive, they the liberal party a centre right party, they don't advertise themselves as being progressive

the Labour party is advertised as being progressive on social issues and as the op has stated they have failed on this. but of course as i have already said i thought everybody already knew they weren't going to be a progressive government and people were just voting out work choices.
 

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