Stevo.Stevo. said:Enlightened. Intellectual.
Enlightened. Intellectual.Schroedinger said:Gonna need an answer from a fundie, asap.
EDIT: Kings 7:23
neither, it's a transcendental number which has a non-terminating, non-repeating decimal expansion, we can only write down an approximation of its true value to arbitrary precisionSchroedinger said:That isn't an answer. Is Pi 3 or 3.1415
According to my calculator it is 3.1415. I dont know how to work it out myself?Schroedinger said:That isn't an answer. Is Pi 3 or 3.1415
I dont think the israelites did then. Do you? I think you are taking that out of context.Schroedinger said:10 across and 30 around?
And yet pi isn't 3?
How's that the case? Does your bible have decimal places?
So you'd admit as much as that the text of the Bible exists in a particular cultural and historical context then?*TRUE* said:I dont think the israelites did then. Do you? I think you are taking that out of context.
LolKwayera said:The point is that they SHOULD give exact measurements (although by the nature of pi it can't be given exactly) because God is supposed to know these things, yes? Well "God" or more importantly whoever wrote the divinely uninspired Bible did not know.
nope. Just that it would be so weird if God did give pi exactly. Who knows? Maybe pi is threeCaptain Gh3y said:So you'd admit as much as that the text of the Bible exists in a particular cultural and historical context then?
that's some impressive mental gymnastics then*TRUE* said:nope.
Pi is not three. We know that much. So who do you believe? Science, or the Bible? You didn't answer the question.*TRUE* said:nope. Just that it would be so weird if God did give pi exactly. Who knows? Maybe pi is three
Thanks.Captain Gh3y said:that's some impressive mental gymnastics then
lol3unitz said:it would have been nice if the bible showed some devine knowledge.
"a line of 31.41592654 (rounded) cubits did compass round about it, approximated using
so under your definition god could be an amplified quantum fluctuation?phatchance said:Enteebee, if it is not a conscious, what exactly is it? I understand that non 'conscious' observation (computers, other particles etc.) are enough to determine reality; what I am saying is, whatever DID create the universe is what we name God, and there is significant empirical evidence at this point that God has to exist, at least with an intuitive evaluation of the potential implications of conscious determinism. I don't take this as grand proof of biblical theology, however I think it makes the case for the presence of something we could label God. Even if God is a very smart subatomic particle.
It's really not about maths as such, just a particular example of where the bible (the old testament being a book about old jewish myths and customs) taken literally is clearly not in agreement with reality.*TRUE* said:Thanks.
I humbly admit my maths is terrible.
In the past 6500 posts? Yep.phatchance said:This whole pi argument is ridiculous and clutching at straws, surely you have stronger anti-biblical arguments that a small and ridiculous inconsistency in the bible? Surely one could simply argue that God chose to approximate given people wouldn't adequately appreciate the implications?
Exactly right, my belief is that if there is a God it's the product and sum of the universe. Probably, in a basic sense, the universe itself is God, and by its nature is the only one really in on the joke. Do you think your particles run around trying to debate your existence?Captain Gh3y said:so under your definition god could be an amplified quantum fluctuation?