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yeah fuck anyone - male, female, or transgender - who recognises that, since the beginning of history and most assuredly before, women, who make up roughly half the population, have been systemically and routinely oppressed, excluded, so on and so forth.
 

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yeah fuck anyone - male, female, or transgender - who recognises that, since the beginning of history and most assuredly before, women, who make up roughly half the population, have been systemically and routinely oppressed, excluded, so on and so forth.
People shouldn't be judged by their genitalia!

Oh but btw you are guilty of the actions of people born thousands of years before you because you happen to have the same genitalia as them.
 

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please

you can find photos of uninformed people holding up signs for literally any movement

doesn't make feminism any less legit
 

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People shouldn't be judged by their genitalia!

Oh but btw you are guilty of the actions of people born thousands of years before you because you happen to have the same genitalia as them.
if you but glance at the pictures, you will realise that 1) they are written in present tense 2) they all refer to present subject. historical guilt is a total red herring.

a number of the people in the pictures make reasonable statements. some don't.
 

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Son asked his mother the following question:

"Mom, why are wedding dresses white?" The mother looks at her son and replies,

"Son, this shows your friends and relatives that your bride is pure."

The son thanks his Mom and goes off to double-check this with his father.

"Dad why are wedding dresses white?"

The father looks at his son in surprise and says, "Son, all household appliances come in white."
 

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please

you can find photos of uninformed people holding up signs for literally any movement

doesn't make feminism any less legit
Except most feminists who make a point of expressing their feminism are dumb

so feminism is entirely less 'legit'.

No but seriously, go ahead tell me what feminism is really about and how no true scotsman would be ignorant of the etymological root of the word 'history'
 
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if you but glance at the pictures, you will realise that 1) they are written in present tense 2) they all refer to present subject. historical guilt is a total red herring.
If feminism is really about people being treated as individuals whose gender is unimportant, of what signifigance are historical wrongdoings by men to modern-day feminism?



a number of the people in the pictures make reasonable statements. some don't.
Not Really.
 

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I need patriarchy to make sure that women shave their arms unlike that woman in the pic above...
 

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Except most feminists who make a point of expressing their feminism are dumb

so feminism is entirely less 'legit'.

No but seriously, go ahead tell me what feminism is really about and how no true scotsman would be ignorant of the etymological root of the word 'history'
no one is saying that 'her story' thing isn't ridiculous

as i said, just because idiots exist doesn't ruin the 'vibe' of the movement

to me feminism is basically just another word for equality-- more than just the equal pay/equal opportunities bullshit but also with attitudes in society, especially in reference to sexual and physical ~norms~

I need patriarchy to make sure that women shave their arms unlike that woman in the pic above...
women don't need to do shit thanks
how does her choosing not to shave her arms impact you in any way at all
those photos were taken in england
 
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God... notice these emasculated guys riding the feminism train.

In the 1920s, the feminism movement was all about equal rights between men and women, particularly with voting.

In the 1960s and 70s, it was about the right to kill a human fetus inside you.

In the 1980s, it was about not being sexually “harassed.”

Today, the modern feminism movement can now be allowing Western women to be fat sluts. They are fighting for the right to look as ghastly as they want while being able to ride one-hundred cocks without being judged.
 

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If feminism is really about people being treated as individuals whose gender is unimportant, of what signifigance are historical wrongdoings by men to modern-day feminism?
feminism isn't about treating people as individuals whose gender is unimportant. if modern feminism is "about" anything at all it is, at the very least, about recognising the socially constitutive role of gender divisions. gender is, therefore, supremely important.

also, no one - no feminist - is outraged because of some "historical wrongdoing". no one is a feminist because henry VIII beheaded anne boleyn and catherine howard, and was an all round cunt to the rest of his wives. it's more about how the very fabric of society was constituted (i say was but to some extent it still is) in such a manner as to exclude, oppress, and undermine women.

Not Really.
if you have a problem with any of them, feel free to explain. sure, some of them are outrageously dumb, like ""I need feminism because I contribute to rape culture without knowing it", where rape culture is in my humble opinion most often a particularly vile and tyrannical concept of feminism. but none of these people are spokespeople for feminism, and it means something different for each of them.
 
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no one is saying that 'her story' thing isn't ridiculous

as i said, just because idiots exist doesn't ruin the 'vibe' of the movement

to me feminism is basically just another word for equality-- more than just the equal pay/equal opportunities bullshit but also with attitudes in society, especially in reference to sexual and physical ~norms~
This is what it means to some people ...


 

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to me feminism is basically just another word for equality
And that's why feminism is dumb.

Equality is a meaningless term and is simply a political bludgeon. It means whatever feminists at any given moment want it to mean. If you're opposed to feminism because you happen to disgaree with the policy prescriptions of the batshit insane vocal feminsits, well that means you're opposed to "equality" (just like in parks and rec, where the doomsday cult were 'the cult of reasonableness'; if you disagreed with them that means you're unreasonable).

- more than just the equal pay/equal opportunities bullshit
you're right in calling it bullshit

but also with attitudes in society, especially in reference to sexual and physical ~norms~
It's not about "equality", its about men not being able to have any stadards of judgement whatsoever. In fact, they want the opposite of equality, because they have absolutely no problem judging men far more harshly then men do women.

The end game of feminism is to make it impossible for a female to do any wrong, absolving her from all responsibility for her actions, no matter how reprehensible. The fact that a human being has a vagina will soon mean that she can not make a bad decision about anything. Punishing or criticizing a woman for her life choices will be abolished.

Girl has no willpower and is 50 pounds overweight? Not her fault. She’s beautiful. Social constructs need to be changed.
Girl sluts around with 100 guys without condoms? Not her fault. She’s empowered and strong.
Girl is irresponsible with sex and has five abortions in her 20s? It’s her body and she can do whatever she wants. A fetus inside her is not a living entity.
Girl is making less money than men? The patriarchy is holding her down.
Girl gets drunk in a guy’s house and has sex with him? He took advantage of her. She was raped.
Girl studies stupid major in college and can’t get a job? The 1% owes her a marketing manager position.
Girl sleeps with her college professor in exchange for a better grade? She was a victim. The professor took advantage of her.
Girl likes dating guys much younger than her? You go girl! Rob that cradle!
Girl experiences an uncomfortable moment of any kind? She’s being harassed. Men are creeps.
Girl travels to Italy or Spain to bang hot European men? She’s romantic.
Wife gets slapped by husband after she pushed him first? Call the police and send him to jail.
Wife cheated on her faithful husband? He wasn’t attending to her needs. She wasn’t happy. Give her the kids and half his money.
Mother runs over her own kid in an accident? The SUV wasn’t safe. It’s the auto industry’s fault.
Mother kills all of her kids? She was mentally sick. We must give her love instead of severe punishment.

On the flip side, almost anything a man does is wrong:

Guy is nice to girl in hopes of getting sex one day? He’s dishonest. He’s the polar opposite of nice.
Guy approaches girls in the bar in hopes of getting sex? He’s a rando creep loser.
Guy on OK Cupid says he wants a girl who doesn’t play games? Let’s publicly mock him on Tumblr.
Guy graduates from college in field that uses math? He’s privileged. We must create expensive programs to push girls into math while excluding boys.
Guy makes a joke about fat girls? Hate speech.
Guys says he doesn’t date black girls with ghetto attitude? Racist.
Guy likes working out to have strong muscles? Narcissist.
Guy spends his money on a fast sports car? He’s overcompensating for a small penis.
Guy doesn’t want to date girls because he’s tired of flakes? He needs to stop being a boy and man up.
Guy says he wants his wife to stay at home and raise the kids? Slaver.
Guy believes in limited government without welfare? Right wing whacko.
Guy believes hard work is eventually rewarded? Wants poor people in Africa to suffer and starve.
Guy calls girls on the internet ugly? Whole internet comes pounding on his door.
Guy hits on a girl on the street? Street harassment. Disturbing the peace.
Guy travels to Ukraine to get laid? Sex tourist.
Guy likes dating girls much younger than him? Sexual predator.
Guy likes dating girls just a little bit younger than him? Immature and irresponsible.
Hairy man says he likes to raw dog? Disgusting and foul.
Promiscuous gay man spreads HIV through raw dogging? It’s okay since he’s gay. Give more taxpayer money to fund HIV research.





women don't need to do shit thanks
how does her choosing not to shave her arms impact you in any way at all
those photos were taken in england
Nobody is stopping her, but she's upset because men understandably don't find her attractive. Which is to say that men ought to be attracted to her. Even though attraction is not a choice, and these same feminsits will fucking castrate men who say that its unfair that women don't like them for being 'nice guys'.
 
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