Flat Tax Rate. (1 Viewer)

[Generator]

*bump*

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12718472^2702,00.html
http://theage.com.au/news/National/Rich-pay-15-income-tax/2005/03/31/1111862530503.html

 

[Rorix]

I didn't bring that point up in refernece to "flat tax." I brought it up because someone falsely claimed that taxing all goods at the same rate is efficient.

That was the literal meaning of the claim, but there are certain implied assumptions (like everyone is acting in their own best interests) which pretty much covers your objection anyway. I notice you ignored my counter argument to your point completely (again) and regardless your point has no relevance in the comparison of progressive and proportional tax systems, which is what the thread is about anyway.

Why would u, it makes the ppl on low incomes have a high percentage of their income taken in tax, and the rich to have minimal tax in relation to their income

Flat tax aka proportional refers to a percentage taken from income. There is no difference in the percentage between the poor and the rich.

 

[Korn]

That was the literal meaning of the claim, but there are certain implied assumptions (like everyone is acting in their own best interests) which pretty much covers your objection anyway. I notice you ignored my counter argument to your point completely (again) and regardless your point has no relevance in the comparison of progressive and proportional tax systems, which is what the thread is about anyway.





Flat tax aka proportional refers to a percentage taken from income. There is no difference in the percentage between the poor and the rich.

Oh, well in that case i dont really see a problem in it

 

[withoutaface]

Unsure, but leaning more to yes than no, so the third option.

 

[Not-That-Bright]

*bump - There's alot of discussion in Europe at the moment:

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,16849-1758916,00.html
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/46024.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...o2902.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/08/29/ixhome.html
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/....php/Walker`s_World_Germany`s_flat_tax_debate

 

[heybraham]

have you not realised that every measure to 'improve the economy' or 'improve the standard of living' has only made the rich richer and the poor poorer. everything costs something. it's the 'opportunity cost' (no don't go into a economics debate, i don't study eco but i have commonsense), the reason why western society is so rich is because they exploit and control poorer countries. hence this is what the extremists muslims are protesting against.

to employ such regressive tax rates would destroy the australian values of egalitarian society, this isn't a first however, just look at the changes to HECS. howard is destroying equal opportunity, taking it down brick by brick for the sake of 'boosting the economy' (which equate to votes).

 

[Not-That-Bright]

please understand the idea would be to set up the poor so that they are paying NO TAX, in an attempt to get them into the work force... instead of taxing the fuck out of them as it is.

while alot of economic measures have widened the gap between the rich and the poor, it's a fallacy to say that they have made the 'poor poorer' (unless of course we're talking in relative terms). I think it's wrong to say all economic measures do this.

 

[loquasagacious]

The problem is that moves such as these or the simplification of the tax/welfare system by the Australian could all be inflationary.

More money = more spending.

This is particularly dangerous in the case of the Australian's suggestion as people would just think they had more money but not actually have anymore.....

 

[Xayma]

have you not realised that every measure to 'improve the economy' or 'improve the standard of living' has only made the rich richer and the poor poorer. everything costs something. it's the 'opportunity cost' (no don't go into a economics debate, i don't study eco but i have commonsense), the reason why western society is so rich is because they exploit and control poorer countries. hence this is what the extremists muslims are protesting against.

to employ such regressive tax rates would destroy the australian values of egalitarian society, this isn't a first however, just look at the changes to HECS. howard is destroying equal opportunity, taking it down brick by brick for the sake of 'boosting the economy' (which equate to votes).

Destroying equality by allowing everybody to defer their HECS? By charging it dependent upon the course you do not by how much your parents earn (who says they will support you anyway, if I was in the USA I would be struggling because my dad doesn't support me much at all relative to his income)?