for those concerned about the pope (1 Viewer)

[walrusbear]

Whats not cool!? He has set the Catholic Church back to the days before VII. Now it holds no relevance to contemporary believers. Stop being such high-horsed sissys.

exactly
this guy challenges Howard for being socially regressive

 

[Korn]

Whats not cool!? He has set the Catholic Church back to the days before VII. Now it holds no relevance to contemporary believers. Stop being such high-horsed sissys.

Sorry, actually he has been one of the most influential popes in history, as well as exteremly active as Pope. He has also been quite liberal in his views (compared to past Popes)

 

[malkin86]

What bad choices has he made during his papacy, specifically? To simply denounce him without specification does both him and us a dis-service.

 

[Lexicographer]

Please stop this. Granted there are many differing opinions, but now is not the time for them.

Besides, I strongly believe that we will not know the true value (or damage) of his term for many years.

 

[absolution*]

Sorry, actually he has been one of the most influential popes in history, as well as exteremly active as Pope. He has also been quite liberal in his views (compared to past Popes)

Yeah, thanks for that. I gather you got it all from National Nine News or something. Go do your own research. He has only been influential in stopping any sort of progress within the church. He has been active in upholding traditional, conservative beliefs. Look at his encyclicals. They tend to be against abortion, or euthanasia or any any sort of contemporary issues. Liberal my ass. Maybe compared to Pius who was an anal bastard, but certainly not compared to John XXIII. Why do you think so many people have left the Catholic Church to go to Evangelical churches? Because the Roman Catholic church is stuck in its old traditions and ways of worship, there is no contemporary relevance which is why the faith is dying out in Australia. The fact that people hold him in such high esteem puzzles me greatly.

 

[Korn]

Yeah, thanks for that. I gather you got it all from National Nine News or something. Go do your own research. He has only been influential in stopping any sort of progress within the church. He has been active in upholding traditional, conservative beliefs. Look at his encyclicals. They tend to be against abortion, or euthanasia or any any sort of contemporary issues. Liberal my ass. Maybe compared to Pius who was an anal bastard, but certainly not compared to John XXIII. Why do you think so many people have left the Catholic Church to go to Evangelical churches? Because the Roman Catholic church is stuck in its old traditions and ways of worship, there is no contemporary relevance which is why the faith is dying out in Australia. The fact that people hold him in such high esteem puzzles me greatly.

He may not be liberal persay, but he is more liberal then a lot of Popes

 

[absolution*]

Please stop this. Granted there are many differing opinions, but now is not the time for them.

Besides, I strongly believe that we will not know the true value (or damage) of his term for many years.

This is a forum. No offense, but you dont have to contribute if you find it offensive. If now is not the time to debate when is? No one ever takes any notice of Christian issues within the media until something distasteful or extraordinary happens. There is no better time.

 

[Lexicographer]

This is a forum. No offense, but you dont have to contribute if you find it offensive. If now is not the time to debate when is? No one ever takes any notice of Christian issues within the media until something distasteful or extraordinary happens. There is no better time.

Yes this is a forum. As such it is expected that you respect the requests of others when you are in danger of seriously offending them.

I am saying this not as a moderator, but as a forum member. Please let the discussion wait until a slightly less sensitive time.

 

[absolution*]

He may not be liberal persay, but he is more liberal then a lot of Popes

Well since Pius came in before WWII its not reasonable to suggest that any popes before him would have been compelled to make progressive judgements. However, the world now is a much different place and the people are much different people.

 

[Korn]

Well since Pius came in before WWII its not reasonable to suggest that any popes before him would have been compelled to make progressive judgements. However, the world now is a much different place and the people are much different people.

True ppl are different now, but that doesnt mean that the Pope isnt liberal (in comparison to predecessors) its just that he is from a different time, some would say a more moral time

 

[walrusbear]

Yes this is a forum. As such it is expected that you respect the requests of others when you are in danger of seriously offending them.

I am saying this not as a moderator, but as a forum member. Please let the discussion wait until a slightly less sensitive time.

just fucking chill
people can post what they want, you know
the pope is beyond criticism, nay discussion of any sort because he's dying?
what do you want this thread to look like?
"oh fuck the pope's dying"
"yeah he's a fucking hero man"
"now's not the time, just let the man die in peace you insensitive cunt"
"should we perhaps try to remember him..."
"NO! The discussion must wait until a much less sensitive time"

 

[chookyn]

The pope is like God's representitive on earth

so like another Jesus Christ?

lol. disturbing.

 

[withoutaface]

Slightly different, Jesus was God himself on Earth.

Oh and absolution, despite maintaining several conservative views, the Pope has also encouraged a lot of progressive stuff, but you have to remember that change takes time, especially when your church has over a billion members.

 

[ur_inner_child]

yeah some people here are a bit rude

would you like it if you were on your death bed and people were like

"they weren't that great anyway"....?

 

[lourai*87]

I dont even follow religion and hearing about the pope has made me really emotional each time it on. Just the fact that he cant retire and has to stay doing this job until he dies i see as so cruel.

Is it really that relevant whether he has made bad choices at some time in his life...no. He deserves respect at any rate, no matter how you feel about certain things.

 

[stamos]

Do not start this kind of talk while he is on his deathbed.

Have some respect.

I respect that there are many here who dislike the Pope for who he is. But I am pointing at WHAT he is, and at the moment that is an elderly man going through a prolonged and painful death.

So for the sake of common decency, do not speak of the dying in such bad taste.

Please stop this. Granted there are many differing opinions, but now is not the time for them.

Besides, I strongly believe that we will not know the true value (or damage) of his term for many years.

Yes this is a forum. As such it is expected that you respect the requests of others when you are in danger of seriously offending them.

I am saying this not as a moderator, but as a forum member. Please let the discussion wait until a slightly less sensitive time.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH this is almost as good as your obsession with tooooodulu

 

[im an idiot]

you know in some cultures people celebrate someones life when they die instead of winge and cry about it.

overall i think he has done an alright job except his dumb ideology of evil bullshit

 

[spell check]

how can the pope be god's representative on earth if he is chosen by men?

are you saying men are better than god

anyway as if you can't criticise people just because they're dying

 

[withoutaface]

how can the pope be god's representative on earth if he is chosen by men?

are you saying men are better than god

anyway as if you can't criticise people just because they're dying

No, but the idea is that St. Peter, the first Pope, was selected by Jesus. Either he or Jesus then had to elect and approve any Cardinals, so in an indirect kind of way, God has already predetermined the line of Popes through Jesus' original decisions. And criticism of him is fine, so long as it is justified and constructive.

 

[spell check]

No, but the idea is that St. Peter, the first Pope, was selected by Jesus. Either he or Jesus then had to elect and approve any Cardinals, so in an indirect kind of way, God has already predetermined the line of Popes through Jesus' original decisions. And criticism of him is fine, so long as it is justified and constructive.

how could criticism of him be constructive, he's about to die, not likely to take any suggestions on board is he?