historians quote exchange (1 Viewer)

[Atticus.]

i thought it would be a good idea to trade some quotes from some historians to use in our source based question in the exam...

herodotus
"history is simply the search for truth about the past"

thanks guys

 

[trekkie]

Henry Steele Commager
“Lord Bolingbrook put it for all time when, drawing on the ancients, he defined history as ‘philosophy teaching by examples’”

Writing history is “painting a picture, not taking a photograph”

 

[pukkatukka]

hayden white
"we look through the lenses of our own grinding"

 

[skiguy_hsv]

"History is like drinking an ocean, and pissing a cupn full"
- a personal favourite

 

[ujuphleg]

Hi Mat!!

"All history, conciously or unconciously is written from the perspective of the present."

 

[gemita]

Who said that one?

 

[ujuphleg]

The "writing history was like drinking in an ocean and pissing a cupful" was quoted by Flaubert

All history, concious or unconsiously..... etc was quoted by Richard J. Evans

 

[Paroissien]

Ok, that quote makes sense now.
Who is Richard J. Evans? Am I missing a joke?

 

[ujuphleg]

No you aren't.

Hes the Professor of Modern History at the University of Cambridge, anti-postmodernist and star witness in the Lipstadt/Irving libel trial.

 

[gemita]

And awesome. The last paragraph of In Defence of History is so good. Even though I like pomo and I think there's a lot to be said for it, Evans cuts it down.

 

[blacmajic]

hayden white
"we look through the lenses of our own grinding"

my teacher said we couldnt use White cause he's not in the source book of readings! i used him in my 1/2 yearlys and i lost quite a few marks for it!
just giving you a heads up!


any one doing Ranke?
"to history has been assigned the office of judging the past, of instructing the present for the benefit of future ages. To such high offices this work does not aspire, it wants only to show what really happened, how it really it"

Oh yeah! ive known that one off by heart for a while now its pretty good, but if you dont know it by now i wouldnt try and learn it!!

 

[laracroft]

my teacher said we couldnt use White cause he's not in the source book of readings! i used him in my 1/2 yearlys and i lost quite a few marks for it!
just giving you a heads up!

where does it say that we can't quote historians who arent in the source book?
if ur referring to historians who arent in the source book isnt that evidence of 'wide reading' which markers like to see, coz it shows uve put ur own work into it
??? idunno

EH Carr: "facts speak only when a historian calls on them"

 

[Suspense]

I've read about 2 things out of the source book. On the whole they're pretty crap as they waffle on and on and rarely get to a decent point.

 

[Atticus.]

any one doing Ranke?

yep i am. good old lutheran ranke...
ranke single handedly created the profession of history

anyone doing summers the feminist?
"for history to be complete it must be all encompassing"

 

[Senator04]

my teacher said we couldnt use White cause he's not in the source book of readings! i used him in my 1/2 yearlys and i lost quite a few marks for it!
just giving you a heads up!


any one doing Ranke?
"to history has been assigned the office of judging the past, of instructing the present for the benefit of future ages. To such high offices this work does not aspire, it wants only to show what really happened, how it really it"

Oh yeah! ive known that one off by heart for a while now its pretty good, but if you dont know it by now i wouldnt try and learn it!!

Don't worry about it, do White ur teacher ain't marking it is she? If you were to just cover what was in the source booklet, u wouldn't be able to say a real lot. Last year I scribed for a guy, who only used 2 from the source booklet out of his 9 historians and he did well, so can that idea. As long as uve read his work and can quote the name etc ur ok.

anyone doing summers the feminist?

mate when we were at a lecture day at macquarie earlier in the year, the famous feminist historian they bought in said Summers and the other feminist were sociologists and not historians.

 

[Paroissien]

Holy shit! 9 historians seems a bit overboard.

 

[max]

"To praise an historian for his objectivity is like to praise a builder for his fine-seasoned timber and well-mixed concrete - it's a sufficient ideal, but not the essential outcome."


-E.H.Carr

 

[Atticus.]

thanks for helping everyone. you all deserve rep!!!