honours and stuff (1 Viewer)

[hipsta_jess]

ok, this is prob a really dumb question, but with honours students, do they just do research (ie, for biology) or do they have classes as well?
what sorts of things do honours (and higher) students do?

 

[crazybrad]

with honours with pharmacy they research and they dont have to attend classes but it is advisable that they do, who cares they still get b Pharm, but only know 1 thing

 

[alman]

I hear that Honours is a semester of lectures,tutorials (with no assessments) and that the next semester is your own research for an Honours thesis...Please correct me because I'm probably wrong!!

 

[Minai]

For Commerce honours students (at UNSW anyway), the honours year is made of up

- Thesis (obviously)
- Research seminar's (with assessments)
- Advanced theory classes (with assessments)
- Teaching tutorials (1st and 2nd yr classes in your field)

 

[Ninga]

With Physics honours you still do classes. But have to do research and a honours thesis as well on top of all this.

 

[Lexicographer]

I know BSci (Hons) in Maths at USyd still has classes, but a lot of it is research. I get the impression that honours is as Minai described it across the board.

 

[cheesegrater]

im pretty sure honors (at least in BSc) is 50% thesis and 50% 3000 or 4000 level courses and it runs usually for 10 months starting in the first week of feb.

 

[Collin]

So does the Hon designation on your degree REALLY make it THAT much more attractive? And can you actually 'fail' your honours year? As in, go so crap that you end up doing the honours year, but get rejected for the 'hons' part for your degree?

 

[Minai]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
So does the Hon designation on your degree REALLY make it THAT much more attractive? And can you actually 'fail' your honours year? As in, go so crap that you end up doing the honours year, but get rejected for the 'hons' part for your degree?

Yes of course
if you get below 50% for your thesis and all your assessments in your honours core subjects, you'll fail

 

[Collin]

You mean 50% for any of your assessments or 50% average?

 

[jay2000]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
So does the Hon designation on your degree REALLY make it THAT much more attractive?

What do you think?
Aren't most masters degrees two years anyway?
Masters sounds better than honours anyday!...IMO

 

[CM_Tutor]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
So does the Hon designation on your degree REALLY make it THAT much more attractive? And can you actually 'fail' your honours year? As in, go so crap that you end up doing the honours year, but get rejected for the 'hons' part for your degree?

Honours are awarded in different classes, which are:

H1M - 1st class honours with the University Medal
H1 - 1st class honours
H21 - 2nd class honours, division 1
H22 - 2nd class honours, division 2
H3 - 3rd class honours

If you fail honours, then you are awarded a pass degree.

On the question of its value, it is valuable if you want to do further study, and also for employment.

If you get H1M, you should be shouting from the rooftops about it.

If you get H3, you should deny having done honours and pretend to have a pass degree.

 

[CM_Tutor]

Originally posted by jay2000
What do you think?
Aren't most masters degrees two years anyway?
Masters sounds better than honours anyday!...IMO

But that doen't make it better.

A bachelor's degree with honours by research is higher than a coursework masters degree.

 

[Collin]

Originally posted by CM_Tutor
A bachelor's degree with honours by research is higher than a coursework masters degree.

Do employers really see it that way though?

 

[CM_Tutor]

Originally posted by JKDDragon
Do employers really see it that way though?

Depends on whether they know anything about the subject - also remember that employers have all sorts of criteria to examine. For example, someone with a PhD may be considered over-qualified, and hence their qualification counts against them.

 

[Collin]

Over-qualified? I don't understand, why would overqualification go against someone when looking for employment?

 

[JRasnier]

because the company may not be able to afford a person with phd, person with a phd is seen as expensive....thats why some ppl dont put in 50 certificates (overexaggeration obvious)

 

[Generator]

Or that the company may feel that it is unable to mould the person into the type of employee that they are seeking...

 

[Giant Lobster]

i dont like the idea of being moulded by a company..
ill rather mould myself

 

[CM_Tutor]

Or that they believe you are too much a specialist when they want a generalist.

Or that they think you'll get bored and leave.